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Not the result we as fisherman wanted,but on the economy front probably the right result.
as "marlinmarty"pointed out now is the time for us recreational fisherman to get family friends to visit the "legasea"site and sign up to donate,even the price of a cup of coffee per month helps,whats $5?
maybe those splinter groups may see the error of their ways and join forces to achieve the common goal?

From what may seem as a raw deal now for the recreational sector maybe beneficial for "legasea" they can now continue dealing with the devil we know rather than starting fresh with a unknown quantity.

The pressure needs to be put on national to go through with the proposed recreational fishing areas,it was not a promise so it cannot be broken.

Hopefully nzf spokesman on fishing "Richard Prosser"will support the cause.
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Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

[QUOTE=widerange] F&^KING disaster for our enviroment ,fishery,new zealand way of life
Everything will have a price tag soon
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Clearly the majority of New Zealand dont think so


48% is not the majority!
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48% plus the other parties who we all knew were they would be putting their support is a majority. and whilst I feel for allan I do think theres only one person dunne had in mind for getting home and that was himself and I feel its a let down of MMP that you get .6 of a percent but still have a seat while parties who had far greater support get nothing
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I think it was a hard choice for a very lot of ppl....
a lot wanted a change of government, but did not like the choice of the main alternative in its present form, so basically either a wasted vote or a vote for 2nd best maintaining the status quo
In effect because of a lack of confidence in the main opposition, we have dropped the concept of mmp keeping the treasury benched honest and gone to a 1st past the post system.

I think too many politicians need to get off their self serving ambitions, agendas and get back to putting the interests of the people and country (in that order) 1st.... and thats how ppl voted yesterday... against the self serving politicians, of which the alternative has far too many.
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It is a shame UF didn't get alan...Gunfisher...in as well, and no, it was not a wasted vote at all as that is what you voted for, you had your say, that is the important thing.
No surprises, I am delighted that the Nats got in, I am also very pleased that Flavell and the Maori party got in as I think they are doing a great job for their side.
Why did labour lose, indeed, get totally thumped? Manban. Apologising for being a man. Being seen as the party for social engineering and p.c. Insisting on women in electorates, irrespective of the quality of the male candidates....so you can wind up with a second or third choice candidate for your area just coz they have bumps in the right place... No, that is just wrong, every bit as wrong as disallowing women because they just ain't chaps, dontcherknow.
Greens? No thanks. Ever.
Hone and mr dot coms sellouts, bloody good job, gone burger.
Winston, irrelevant, as he should be.
Anyhow. Like the majority of nz,ie, the rational, sane, practical and non fruit loopy people, I am happy the way things have worked out. There, if the disaffected lefties can sulk about people being greedy or ignorant or self serving, just because they like the idea of having or keeping a job, then I should be allowed to have a quiet smirk at the discomforture of the day dream believers! :-)
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Originally posted by marlinmarty marlinmarty wrote:


I suggest NZF will not put much weight behind our cause now which is where many chose to back Alan


Even if they had gotten in with Peters links to commercial fishing companies, like Simunovich fisheries, we would have gotten nothing in return. Unfortunately it seems, even given his history of dishonesty and deceit, he still received a lot of wasted votes, including rec fishers who were sucked in.

The only positive is that he doesn't hold the balance of power so he can't dick the entire country around for weeks like last time.
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I disagree with the "wasted vote" term.
How is it wasted? Sure, I party voted UF and it didn't make a difference, but if I voted National my one vote still wouldn't have made a difference! In both cases my vote wouldn't change the number of MP's the party had in govt, so therefore individually everyone's vote is "wasted".
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Will Alan now consider putting his ideas in with legasea and look to keep the obviously positive ideas he and UF had when surveyed by Legasea on fishing issues?. And all those of you who fish remember what National's score was in the same comparison and if you voted National remember what their result in this was, along with all the problems we have had with the last national Minister we had to deal with.
Wasted? no. It brought to some of us a greater awareness that there are people out there who really value what we see as important.
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Originally posted by Raging Bull Raging Bull wrote:

Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

[QUOTE=widerange] F&^KING disaster for our enviroment ,fishery,new zealand way of life
Everything will have a price tag soon
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Clearly the majority of New Zealand dont think so


48% is not the majority!



it is in a mmp system mate, infact if you half you 48% I think that's pretty close to what the labour got

if you have 48 people for one view and 25 for another isn't the 48 the majority ?
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I am with C.A got the result I wanted and I agree there does need to be a clean out of a few mps with their snouts firmly in that taxpayer funded trough
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Timing was everything for UF
Dunne had a pretty small majority and will probably get wiped out at the next election
I think act will crash before the next election and if Winston retires then NZF may founder too
Conservatives will probably make a come back they are still young and keen

Methinks we either start our own party or just lobby the hell out of national via Legasea
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Originally posted by cosmo cosmo wrote:

48% plus the other parties who we all knew were they would be putting their support is a majority. and whilst I feel for allan I do think theres only one person dunne had in mind for getting home and that was himself and I feel its a let down of MMP that you get .6 of a percent but still have a seat while parties who had far greater support get nothing


Your forgetting the million who didn't vote at all.
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Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

Originally posted by Raging Bull Raging Bull wrote:

Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

[QUOTE=widerange] F&^KING disaster for our enviroment ,fishery,new zealand way of life
Everything will have a price tag soon
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Clearly the majority of New Zealand dont think so


48% is not the majority!



it is in a mmp system mate, infact if you half you 48% I think that's pretty close to what the labour got

if you have 48 people for one view and 25 for another isn't the 48 the majority ?


You too have forgotten the people who didn't vote. Almost as many people didn't vote as those who voted for National.
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Originally posted by Raging Bull Raging Bull wrote:

Originally posted by cosmo cosmo wrote:

48% plus the other parties who we all knew were they would be putting their support is a majority. and whilst I feel for allan I do think theres only one person dunne had in mind for getting home and that was himself and I feel its a let down of MMP that you get .6 of a percent but still have a seat while parties who had far greater support get nothing


Your forgetting the million who didn't vote at all.
do we need the aussie system?must be registered must vote even if you strike out all names?
maybe a $10 tax credit?
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To all you bleeding heart socialists and greenies suck it up losers the people have spoken and given your parties the big FU.....
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Those who don't vote are voting in effect for the status quo.
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Originally posted by Raging Bull Raging Bull wrote:

Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

Originally posted by Raging Bull Raging Bull wrote:

Originally posted by Time_Bandit Time_Bandit wrote:

[QUOTE=widerange] F&^KING disaster for our enviroment ,fishery,new zealand way of life
Everything will have a price tag soon
[/QUOTE


Clearly the majority of New Zealand dont think so


48% is not the majority!



it is in a mmp system mate, infact if you half you 48% I think that's pretty close to what the labour got
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t you have 48 people for one view and 25 for another isn't the 48 the majority ?


You too have forgotten the people who didn't vote. Almost as many people didn't vote as those who voted for National.



no I didn't forgot about them at all, they are irrelevant as they cant be counted, the simple fact is the majority have made the rite call.
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Originally posted by Rockstar from Mars Rockstar from Mars wrote:

To all you bleeding hear socialists and greenies suck it up losers the people have spoken and given your parties the big FU.....



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Did a few fact checks today. I am glad John got back in but when will people wake up to the importance of turning up and voting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/.../New_Zealand_general_election... 2011 results had 2,237,464 while http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/partystatus.html 2014 had 2,1026,710 (Not including specials). National lost 40k which went directly to conservatives. Labour lost 100k only 40k of that went to nz first. Greens lost 30k. Those 90k lost votes are roughly worth 4%, they would have won with that.


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Originally posted by ponty ponty wrote:

Did a few fact checks today. I am glad John got back in but when will people wake up to the importance of turning up and voting.

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specials). National lost 40k which went directly to conservatives. Labour lost
100k only 40k of that went to nz first. Greens lost 30k. Those 90k lost votes
are roughly worth 4%, they would have won with that.</span><o:p></o:p></span>

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would have,could have, should have but DIDN"T!!!!!!!!
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