Request from A. Trout.
To breathe, I need to be in the water. For protection, I need my slime.
Lifting me out of the water for hook release or for photos is torture.
Your landing nets and hands are hurting me.
The big net users and photo posers might like to reply:
.
To breathe, I need to be in the water. For protection, I need my slime.
Lifting me out of the water for hook release or for photos is a process that needs to be done very carefully... I cannot stand having hands put in my gills, or dry hands or hard nets ripping my slime covering or skin. This can in the long run kill me.
My last post on this subject and any other on Fishing.net.nz
 capt apsparagus wrote:"Besides, who cares if the net hurts the poor little fishy-poos, when the dirty great descending Waka about to connect to its skull is going to solve all its problems from then on?" |
Clark, like I said, I have no argument with the release of fish. What I reacted to in a fairly light hearted way was what I percieved to be a rather confrontational post in the first place.
If someone is going to keep a fish, it does not matter a lot what sort of way they hold it for photos. If a fish is to be released, then I also think pretty much everyone knows how this should be done. You do have a valid point however, that of educating the young as the the merits of fish handling or otehrwise. However, I did not think this post was particularly aimed at the young. Not with the "posers" comment, anyhow.
I cannot really say more than I have said above.
. If anyone agrees with me then post on here too.
ummm, geoff, I did already!
I've been on flyfishing forums since 1997 in Europe, US and NZ (believe it or not...) and I have to say this is one of the worst pieces of moderating I've ever seen!
H.A's post is fair and dead on. And Stu you're wrong - a lot of guys DON'T know how to handle fish. In fact, in my experience most anglers do it wrong. I guess that is HA's experience too, since he started this thread in the manner he did.
. Dear A. Trout,
I’ve posted your request to anglers and had an interesting response.
Part of the reaction was my use of words deemed inflammatory. I apologise to you for that and to anglers who took offence. Here’s the break down so far with 9 addressing your request:
- Don’t care. 1
- Trout isn’t dead so it’s okay. 4
- It’s okay to handle trout, hold out of the water and to use nets so long as it’s done carefully. 3
- If a trout is going to be kept, it doesn’t matter how it is treated. 1 (Same respondent as Don’t care)
At this point in time in New Zealand, A. Trout, the answer is No. Request denied,
Regards,
HA.
Bloody hell, what a load of bollocks 
Dear HA,
You call that an interesting response? Interesting?
You’re pathetic and really missed the point.
I’ll give it to you again and this time, listen.
1.) I can only breathe in the water
2.) I have protective slime
3.) Prolonged playing, handling and time out of the water is stressful and could lead to my death
Therefore,
After hooking, release me quickly, keep handling to an absolute minimum and leave me in the water.
The good news is that some New Zealand anglers are achieving this and some of those are doing this without landing nets. For the others, let’s reverse roles in response to the messages posted above.
Once the angler is hooked, get him to sprint around the paddock. That’s just a jog HA and I said SPRINT. Deplete that oxygen and get a good build up of lactic acid. Now you’re getting there. Once he begins to bend over and double up, I’ll scoop him up in a landing net, walk over to the river and dunk him in. That’s right. I’m holding his head under the water, feeling through pockets for the forceps. Let’s get hands around him, clear the net and position the angler’s head for the hook extraction. First shot, no good. Second shot, no good. Third shot his mouth falls open and still under water, he looks like he’s going to cark it. Not a problem because he’s not dead yet. Hook is out now. At this point of exhaustion when the angler’s chances of revival are in the balance, would you mind if I hold his head under a bit longer, for a photograph?
After you’ve applied Mouth to Mouth, CPR and called the ambulance HA, don’t give me this rubbish again about an interesting response. If New Zealand anglers are still asking what to do, then consider this:
For every angler action after hooking the fish, ask For who’s benefit is this?
If it is for the trout’s benefit – do it
If it’s for the angler’s benefit – don’t do it.
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