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fishing today for trout on Lake Okareka now i m hooked so fishing off a boat  tried spinners and just ledger rigs for trout, NOTHING.... please advise what i need to do...keen on trolling and just general bottom fishing 
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Without knowing the area  it a bit hard to say but generally . Find a place that the water is out of the sun , that looks fishy  and then start trying different lures , give it 20 mins and if no luck   change to a different type of lure .... like if a black/gold toby doesnt work  try a veltec or jensen insect spinner. Try 4 or 5  lures  and if no luck then find a different spot  and start again . I live on the Aparima river and by this process I arrived at a  black/gray  7gm jensen insect spinner  and that pretty much my "go to " .
We  are allowed to use baits here   and the ole green lipped mussel is king  ( followed closely by prawns or salted squid  ). Now I know this aint that sporting  coz its damn near guaranteed  , so its handy if I have made rash promises of a trout dinner  to a neibough , or if I just want to know if there are fish there , aint so bad in a river coz I can see them  but could be handy on a lake .
 Soft baits are good too ...... and do add a bit of secret sauce  or some other stinky stuff .
 Go figure  4" nuclear chicken paddle tail works really well   which is weird    coz when did a trout ever see anything like that ..... or mussels .
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cheers will take that advise on board
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Ok going to have a go Saturday at a Lake Parkinson??Waiuku,got a 24hr licence and aztec black magic spinner,Do I tie the spinner directly to braid or need to have a nylon trace? Using bait runner rod/reel.  Just a bit of fun at this stage.
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Your really need a short length of either nylon or fluorocarbon, the length of which is a matter of opinion  but being as how the FG knot ( arguably the best knot  for leader to braid knot ) is a proper bitch to tie  I go for 2 rod lengths   coz you need at least one   and allowing for a few trims  I can get a whole season outa one knot . You will also need the right sized swivel too.Smile
 I bought the slinky  colour of that black magic lure , in 7 and 10g . I know which willow tree the 10g on is in  and the 7  is still safe but as yet unchewed .
I will have to get my 5hit together coz the neibours kids do the river in a canoe  lookin for treed lures  . Tell ya what LOL nothing like having to buy your own lures back of some pack of smug smirkin pint sized racketeers  LOL I was a bit slow  as I didnt realise that when I was asked to describe in detail just where  "I had abandoned it"  ( and his Dads not even a lawyer ) that they were planning a recovery mission  followed by a bit of casual extortion . Smile
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Ok fg knot braid to trace.why do I need swivel? The spinner swivelsor where does the swivel go.Foreign territory this mud fishing
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Originally posted by Mc Tool Mc Tool wrote:

Your really need a short length of either nylon or fluorocarbon, the length of which is a matter of opinion  but being as how the FG knot ( arguably the best knot  for leader to braid knot ) is a proper bitch to tie  I go for 2 rod lengths   coz you need at least one   and allowing for a few trims  I can get a whole season outa one knot . You will also need the right sized swivel too.Smile
 I bought the slinky  colour of that black magic lure , in 7 and 10g . I know which willow tree the 10g on is in  and the 7  is still safe but as yet unchewed .
I will have to get my 5hit together coz the neibours kids do the river in a canoe  lookin for treed lures  . Tell ya what LOL nothing like having to buy your own lures back of some pack of smug smirkin pint sized racketeers  LOL I was a bit slow  as I didnt realise that when I was asked to describe in detail just where  "I had abandoned it"  ( and his Dads not even a lawyer ) that they were planning a recovery mission  followed by a bit of casual extortion . Smile
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Yep , thats pretty much it , only I  use a blood knot  instead of the uni's , but thats only because I have been tying it for 55 years , actually looks a lot like an improved clinch knot .
The swivel is there  because  thru normal use ( casting , line dragged off and rewound   and winding in ) will put a twist in the line . Most lures come with a swivel  but then I have a snap swivel on the leader  , so two swivels . I used to think two swivels was one more than a trout needed to see  but  seeing as how they ignore the hook I dont think it makes a **** of difference ..... just get black  ones   as fish can have a go at the shiney swivel and bite you off..( specially so in the ocean ).
 If your interested I use berkley tournament crystal braid  4kg  and shimano ocea 6lb flouro . The fluoro only because I liked the container  , and the braid coz MD's had it on sale , both have turned out to be most betterness .
 I found the braid to be noisey thru the guides and  you can sorta feel it  more than nylon . ALL my reels have some sort of braid/ fluoro combo .
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more than likely we will use our s/b sets and swap out hook for lure,one has green braid the other yellow. See how we go I guess,what else would I be doing on a winter Saturday morning??

Will report back on how things went.
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Arrived Parkinsons Lake around 7.30am,no wind and a bit of mist,tossed the lure thing,aztec blackmagic,around the entire lake perimeter,never saw sign of trout so after 4 hrs abandoned that idea. Dont think trout spinning is for me or son,nepwhew had a fly and he reckons not for him either,have seen a video of fish caught friday morning so they are there,patience is name of the game?? Think we will stick to saltwater fishing,
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The crazy thing is that you could go back there  in 2 hrs time , or same time tomorrow   and the fish will be fighting over the bait . 
 Personally I wouldnt have given one lure 4 hrs , after trying a few fishy looking spots with out even a follow I would have changed lures . I sorta think that rather than ploughing the whole country with one lure to find a place where the fish will eat it   I reckon your better off finding out what the #uckers are eating where your at now........and it might be nothing .
Ha , other day  I put on a 7g veltec spinner ,red and brass , a lure that has been in my box for probly 20 years , no idea where I got it , never ever used it , any how I chucks it in the general direction of the water  and bugger me , 1st cast , I must have chucked it right in its open mouth  coz it was all go before I even got the chance to ( right hand Tongue) wind the handle .......a nice wee brown for the walking lady ( nice old lady who walks past my house daily ....no idea who she is  )

fishing can be fickleSmile 
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Trout can be fickle for sure, much more so than saltwater species. That said, trout in rivers are usually more obliging than lake fish. It can be frustrating, but I was just thinking I need to get some trout fishing back in to my life.  
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The lake is about 1km round trip and maybe a little over 1m deep,they release 200 rainbow/brown mix annually,nothing flows in apart from rain and farm run off,plenty of weed. 5 of us with different colours.Some old fella turned up and gave pointers.He said its a lake best fished in afternoon late,but he was surprised too see water quality,reckons its not good at the moment and wondered as too have many would of survived the drop..
We know where the phesants are now,counted at least 15 pairs,


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