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Originally posted by Fortheloveoffish Fortheloveoffish wrote:

Hi Fish Addict,
I have had a look on the FNDC website and my understanding is that the land that was returned to Ngati Kahu is next to the boat ramp effectively it is 2 lots 47 and 57.   The ramp, yacht club and immediate surrounding area is public reserve and the ramp is PUBLICALLY OWNED.   The was no lawful basis to block the boat ramp.   The ramp was paid for and is maintained by us ratepayers as are the public toilets and showers that these ‘protestors use as their home bathrooms.   The police response was pathetic, sending boaties to other ramps to avoid escalating tensions, give me a break.   Tensions would have only been from one side and if that happened they should have been arrested.   Police are enabling this type of behaviour by not enforcing any consequences.   Sorry but this makes me furious.   It has been a few years now that they locked the gates for launching boats at Matai bay, again unlawfully.   I have considered several times just cutting the lock and removing the gate but I know that I won’t have the backing of the police and if I leave my truck there and head of fishing it won’t be in the same state when I get back.    Please Govt/police start pulling this behaviour into line, show there are consequences and try and bring an end to this aggressive entitlement.    
Thanks for the response which is pretty much as I expected.  
I'm sure there are a many on this site and in NZ in general who concur with your thoughts. I certainly do.
I thought this would be a perfect opportunity for the new government, via the police, to send a clear message that unlawful behaviour will not be tolerated.  We live in hope.  

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Yes haven’t heard anything from Mark Mitchell, he made a lot of noise about law and order during the election but this sort of thing and the rest of the blatant behaviour is still happening. Just another government who will pander to the few.
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Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

For the benefit of those like me who are unfamiliar with the Taipa boat ramp can someone respond to the following questions:
1. Is the access road to the ramp on public or private land?
2. Is the ramp itself a public or private ramp?
3. Who are the legal owners of the ramp?
4. Who paid for its construction and who pays to maintain it?

Thank you.

1. Public
2. Public
3. Far North Holdings Ltd
4. Ratepayers and again ratepayers.

I know this because I am Far North Holings representative for the area.
Regardless of what you've heard, ALL ramps remained open including Taipa. If you used Taipa on the Saturday, you could get through but be subjected to a lecture on the protesters position.

I don't like it either, but that is what are dealing with until something changes.
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We really need to back ACT It's the first time I never voted labour. He's the only one who is standing up for everyone to be equal. They don't own the land and sea. It's there for everyone. If we don't band together and fight for our rights we will lose it all. They always get away with it cause they victimiize people. Everyones to scared to stand against them. The police should have stepped in.
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There was no written Maori language back then so that version was translated from the English version. Go ACT. The public need to get behind them and give full support. Make Luxton stand up and listen to what the majority of Kiwis want.
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The Maori think the Engish version is wrong and the English disagree with the Maori version.
Just abolish the treaty and make us all equal.
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Originally posted by corosanta corosanta wrote:

Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

For the benefit of those like me who are unfamiliar with the Taipa boat ramp can someone respond to the following questions:
1. Is the access road to the ramp on public or private land?
2. Is the ramp itself a public or private ramp?
3. Who are the legal owners of the ramp?
4. Who paid for its construction and who pays to maintain it?

Thank you.

1. Public
2. Public
3. Far North Holdings Ltd
4. Ratepayers and again ratepayers.

I know this because I am Far North Holings representative for the area.
Regardless of what you've heard, ALL ramps remained open including Taipa. If you used Taipa on the Saturday, you could get through but be subjected to a lecture on the protesters position.

I don't like it either, but that is what are dealing with until something changes.

Thank you Corosanta for clearing that up.
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