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We made the most of the new rules and weather today. Daddy day care is so much better when you can go fishing!


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nice one MB. Hope filleted and cleaned before the thunder and lightning showed up. 
The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb
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the kid, providing dinner in these tough times~~well done.
nice hat too
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Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

nice one MB. Hope filleted and cleaned before the thunder and lightning showed up. 

Yep, did a runner when the wind picked up. Home by the time the rain came down Thumbs Up
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Well done MB, I hope he washed and prepped it for dinner.Clap
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Boy + sharp knife = bad times!

One day LOL
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It was about that time, as boy scouts , we carried a sharp sheath knife.
Grew up with.
If you have a knife in your hand, u use it. not using put down... not a toy.
This ionstills respect for the blade.
and blade always faces away.
 Yep will cut ones self, and most properly more than once over a life time.
 Got to learn some time.
And a $10 glove from marine deals stops bad cuts, not because protects but because enables a good grip on the fish.
Bad cuts usually happen because the hand holding the fish or the fish slips, not the other way around.
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There will be a time steps, but not now. The boy can fall off a stationary chair! He's only 6 years old, but looks older.
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Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

There will be a time steps, but not now. The boy can fall off a stationary chair! He's only 6 years old, but looks older.
HaHa at 58 I can cut myself just getting it out of the  packaging,not once but twice.
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He's only 6 years old, but looks older.

 6 in cubs, no sheath knife... yet  still time to learn whittling bit soft pine... learn the good practices early...And time to get the air rifle out as well?
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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

He's only 6 years old, but looks older.

 6 in cubs, no sheath knife... yet  still time to learn whittling bit soft pine... learn the good practices early...And time to get the air rifle out as well?

Yeah, he's more in to hunting than fishing, so an air rifle is on the horizon. 
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Well folks not just customary fishing. Now the right to harvest native birds

"Times up"
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"Article Two of Te Tiriti o Waitangi guaranteed Māori authority over natural resources." - Well that is a load of utter crap.
There is only ONE Tiriti o Waitangi and it is written in the written Maori language as gifted to the various Maori peoples by the work of a number of missionary's mainly Reverend Henry Williams and his son Edward.
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/people/henry-williams
The actual truth about Tiriti o Waitangi : http://www.treatyofwaitangi.net.nz/
All this Maori Supremacist movement and special rights crap came about because of the traitors David Lange, Geoff Palmer  Mattu Rata and a few others who deliberately used a non-document to obfuscate the real treaty for their communist disruption plans.

Stop Co-Governance in New Zealand - One Law For All will hopefully be starting a road show to put this matter to bed once and for all.
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I'm still not biting PCJ Big smile while I understand your sentiments, think of it this way:  if you were in a minor ethnic group and you discovered this country would you feel aggrieved? 

OK, yes that's a bite. 

If stuff like kereru start going the wrong way then protect them again - easy. I'd love to try one and I could have shot dozens and no one would be any the wiser, but I don't because that is the law in this country that I was born in and choose to stay in though I dislike some aspects of it. I have been to many countries, I don't have any desire to live anywhere else. No, you and I aren't responsible for the atrocities that the Europeans caused back in the 18th century and beyond. All races commit atrocities for all sorts of reasons.

Let's not get into a racist debate here.

We shouldn't be afraid to speak up though. Just my thoughts.
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Ok "Smudge" But its our good $$ and conservation(DOC) that has saved a lot of native species. Fair enough Maori may feel grieved as some rights have diminished but where does it end??


But we now have a hui in Northland so Ngapuhi can disscuss how to gain control of land stolen/lost. As the treaty gave them the right to Co Govern but that right was never enforced,


Sorry "smudge" but needs to brought out in the open as many many people are going to be affected by a minority group.Yes they should of had rights. But we are in the 21st century. Got a gripe on how the treaty was interpreted take it up with King Charles it wasnt this or previous Governments that signed the treaty.

Its not racist or maybe it is but majority of NZers feel the same way.
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Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Well folks not just customary fishing. Now the right to harvest native birds


Will they be forced to use customary practice and materials/methods as well or will they be allowed to use European technology and ideas?
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Originally posted by Loose Guides Loose Guides wrote:

"Article Two of Te Tiriti o Waitangi guaranteed Māori authority over natural resources." - Well that is a load of utter crap.
There is only ONE Tiriti o Waitangi and it is written in the written Maori language as gifted to the various Maori peoples by the work of a number of missionary's mainly Reverend Henry Williams and his son Edward.
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/people/henry-williams
The actual truth about Tiriti o Waitangi : http://www.treatyofwaitangi.net.nz/
All this Maori Supremacist movement and special rights crap came about because of the traitors David Lange, Geoff Palmer  Mattu Rata and a few others who deliberately used a non-document to obfuscate the real treaty for their communist disruption plans.

Stop Co-Governance in New Zealand - One Law For All will hopefully be starting a road show to put this matter to bed once and for all.
                                                      "He Iwi Tahi Tatou" - We are now one people     

You are correct. What our children and this generation is being told/taught bears no relation at all to the original document. Throw in the magical, unwritten invisible principles astonishingly discovered during a reinterpretation and rewriting of the document in the 70's and you end up with the lies and deciet you have now being presented as fact. Tell/promote a lie often and loud enough, and eventually people come to accept it as fact. A tactic used by many despots/regimes the world over and now used to good effect in NZ.
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