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They are all puppets for them same masters. Your "vote" literally counts for nothing
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where is the anti cat party? It looks like the pick these days 
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Originally posted by taurangatroutmaster taurangatroutmaster wrote:

They are all puppets for them same masters. Your "vote" literally counts for nothing

Absolute rubbish TTM. Who are these fictional puppet masters? Don't pussy foot around tell us!

If I vote for Act, you vote for Act & one million others vote for Act, then they feature in parliament. 

If you or I registered a party for the forthcoming election and I vote for myself and one million others vote for my party I'm pretty sure my party will play some part in NZ's political scene. If one million vote for your party then you will feature in our political scene.

Would that make you a slave of the puppet masters?




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Time for "The Gurnard Party" smudge.
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Smudge, Act will 100% be getting more votes than the previous election. Probably a few more MPs in parliament than they have for a long time.
Issue is there's still too many braindead lefties who will vote for cindy the commie. There's also a heap of national voters who haven't figured out their being played yet and that both labour and national are both compromised. That isn't some fictional statement by me, TTM or anyone else on here either. Unless you've been living under a rock it's pretty obvious some of the power plays that are being made right now.

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1 million votes is also about half the total votes Smudge. Which no party has got in recent times.
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Originally posted by taurangatroutmaster taurangatroutmaster wrote:

They are all puppets for them same masters. Your "vote" literally counts for nothing
I would agree slightly with you.  Who do we owe the most or borrow the most $$ from???They are the ones pulling the strings.China is the master due to being our largest trading partner.   Without them who would lend us $$. 


Fearing repercussions from our biggest customer and trading partner, Kiwi business leaders are holding their collective breath.

A recently leaked letter from primary sector business heads to Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and other ministers asked the Government to tread lightly with China.



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Exactly PJC. The communist threat never really went away like people thought it did. It's pretty obvious to see now they were just playing the long game. All that side of things is pretty apparent.

Look at the whole BLM thing that's going on, the leaders of which openly describe themselves as trained marxists, not my words, theirs. BLM (Antifa also) who is largely funded by Soros, who is buds with the Clintons and Bush's of the world. The Bill and Melinda gates foundation being one of the largest funders of the WHO behind the US and Chinese governments  (obviously no longer the case with the US government due to recent events).

But it's all fiction as Smudge saysLOL


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Smile Like this Skoti ... and not a NZ First fan ... not a single issue voter but them stopping cameras on com boats cause getting few donations no doubt... is a disgrace and highly hypocritical for Winston who was supposedly the guy who used to stand up to big money... what a joke he and jones are, good politicians and terrible people.
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Originally posted by Fishy11 Fishy11 wrote:

Exactly PJC. The communist threat never really went away like
people thought it did. It's pretty obvious to see now they were just
playing the long game. All that side of things is pretty apparent.

Look
at the whole BLM thing that's going on, the leaders of which openly
describe themselves as trained marxists, not my words, theirs. BLM (Antifa also) who is
largely funded by Soros, who is buds with the Clintons and Bush's of the
world. The Bill and Melinda gates foundation being one of the largest
funders of the WHO behind the US and Chinese governments  (obviously no
longer the case with the US government due to recent events).

But it's all fiction as Smudge saysLOL



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Will be interesting to see if judith collins brings national back toward a center right party. 
Voters will have to choose which way to go. freedom of choice.

Two types of government.
Statism which survives by looting from  productive people,

A free country which survives by production.
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

Will be interesting to see if judith collins brings national back toward a center right party. 
Voters will have to choose which way to go. freedom of choice.

Two types of government 
Statism which survives by looting from  productive people,

A free country which survives by production.


Unlikely. Like most of national she voted along side labour so we now have warrantless searches of peoples homes and a whole heap of other communist type laws.
(these searches were prior to the law change, were found to be illegal, and guess what as usual no repercussions or punishment for those involved).

Judith was also one of the biggest proponents of the cluster f*ck changes to firearms legislation. Just because they aren't as far far left as labour doesn't mean they aren't loonie lefties all the same.
Actions speak louder than words though - Cindy and Judith can talk all the b.s they want, then do the complete opposite (while both parties are under investigation by the serious fraud office remember) and the mindless sheep who can't think for themselves will still vote for them. Says a lot about a heck of a lot of people as far as their morals and principles go.

It's not really a left / right thing though anyway. Like i've said previously it comes down to freedom and believing in the rights of the individual vs toxic group think, wanting to have control of what others say, think and do with their lives.

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So who are you contemplating voting for fishy11 . Act maybe? Or not voting at all... because there’s no one to represent you, just wondering.
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Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

So who are you contemplating voting for fishy11 . Act maybe? Or not voting at all... because there’s no one to represent you, just wondering.


Yes, most likely leaning towards Act at this stage. Seymour is far more of a libertarian type than any of the others and the only one actually in parliament who has been calling out the b.s of the other 4 parties. Do i think Act are the be all and end all, no. With that being said i'd rather support someone who is for freedom of speech, firearms owners, property rights, business owners, is anti mass aerial 1080 and so on.
His track record of being the only one to actually vote against the other 4 on these issues in recent times speaks volumes as to how compromised the other parties have become. Both from local interests and international dodgy dealings already mentioned here.

I think NZ is f*cked either way and is only going to keep going further left if i'm being honest(i know pretty pessimistic) but if me ticking a particular box with a pen makes even 0.1% difference and means i wasn't one of the people who supported changes that destroyed what this country once was i can live with that.

....and before the usuals start harping on about how there's other countries that are far worse places to live than NZ, save it. We know, we've heard it all before. It's an absurd argument and solves nothing. I've spent enough time in 3rd world sh*t holes and other developed nations to have an idea, as have others.
Just because someone somewhere has it worse doesn't mean your problems no longer exist and you should just take it. Yes some kid in Africa doesn't have clean water. Yes a mother in the middle east lives in a war zone, but if you're house is on fire in NZ you might still want to tend to that. The problem's not going away because someone somewhere is having a worse day than you.
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Shaneg wrote: Can respect that view. Not a bad choice, not that am sure you need any affirmation from me Smile
Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

So who are you contemplating voting for fishy11 . Act maybe? Or not voting at all... because there’s no one to represent you, just wondering.


Yes, most likely leaning towards Act at this stage. Seymour is far more of a libertarian type than any of the others and the only one actually in parliament who has been calling out the b.s of the other 4 parties. Do i think Act are the be all and end all, no. With that being said i'd rather support someone who is for freedom of speech, firearms owners, property rights, business owners, is anti mass aerial 1080 and so on.
His track record of being the only one to actually vote against the other 4 on these issues in recent times speaks volumes as to how compromised the other parties have become. Both from local interests and international dodgy dealings already mentioned here.

I think NZ is f*cked either way and is only going to keep going further left if i'm being honest(i know pretty pessimistic) but if me ticking a particular box with a pen makes even 0.1% difference and means i wasn't one of the people who supported changes that destroyed what this country once was i can live with that.

....and before the usuals start harping on about how there's other countries that are far worse places to live than NZ, save it. We know, we've heard it all before. It's an absurd argument and solves nothing. I've spent enough time in 3rd world sh*t holes and other developed nations to have an idea, as have others.
Just because someone somewhere has it worse doesn't mean your problems no longer exist and you should just take it. Yes some kid in Africa doesn't have clean water. Yes a mother in the middle east lives in a war zone, but if you're house is on fire in NZ you might still want to tend to that. The problem's not going away because someone somewhere is having a worse day than you.
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Originally posted by Fishy11 Fishy11 wrote:

1 million votes is also about half the total votes Smudge. Which no party has got in recent times.

Big smile thanks for clearing that up Big smile
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Ha I agree with Fishy 11.
NZ simply cannot afford socialism as we don't have the numbers or productivity.
The handout to earning ratio is getting seriously bad.
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