smudge wrote: fish-feeder wrote: I'm not anti vax,I've said this how many times? My kids have had all their MMR vaccinations and I've had quite a few flu shots. I'm pro choice,it's a pretty simple concept,it goes like this ... I and I alone decide what I put into my body,not the govt,not some politician. To all you pro vax/anti choice people,what will you do when efficacy rates start dropping rapidly like they are in some countries down to 39% and less? I'm just not sure man can trust a vax developed by a company that has just recalled champix,a cessation of smoking drug that has been proven to cause cancer and that same company had been found guilty of bribing doctors to push their product,let alone a vax that will still be in trials for another 2yrs,I think that's all the reasoning I need. You do you and that's fine. He didn't call you Anti Vax did he? It was a general statement. I'm not against those who aren't getting the covid vax it is their choice. The only thing that I find hard to stomach are the anti vaxxers that keep posting up misinformation, poor souls really believe what they're saying. You know the type - the ones who think Bill Gates is the devil, the ones who hate any form of authority whatsoever. Those people

what difference does it make who owns the bore?

I dont own it.

ugh....we dont drink it mate ,its a moot point.

Muppet wrote: kitno wrote: cirrus wrote: How does a vaccine that dosent stop transmission stop a pandemic. just asking for a friend Tell your friend it stops the majority of transmission and/or lessens the effects of the virus. Your friend should sit down with his GP and have a discussion. With the onset of boosters how many jabs will it take? I have asked all the health experts I know (and they are in the know) and they don’t seem to know… Serious question how many jabs will you and I need?

With the onset of boosters how many jabs will it take? I have asked all the health experts I know (and they are in the know) and they don’t seem to know…
Serious question how many jabs will you and I need?

 Does it matter?
is it a issue of any sort?
is it actually reliveint to anything?

Considering we have been getting tentinus boosters, flu boosters for...more than the life time of most here.

Only posted about boosters because so often seen the anti vaccers jump onto this as an issue..

Which to most shows up their  narrow minded ignorance and the stupidity of not following up the anti vacc BS rabbit holes they have fallen down..

On the other hand , just seen pro vaccers, trying to get their Moari relatives vaccinated by stating that the the Moari Cultural (??)tour  of the mid 1920s got vacced for Spanish flu, before heading to  Europe.
The flu virus wasnt isolated till the 1930s.
The 1st vaccinations , early 1940s.
 1st limited public vaccination in the USA late 1950s early 1960s.
And readily available in NZ for selected at risk groups in the late 1960s early 1970s.

 Like the anti vacc BS which is given with all good intentions ( thu very is guided)   here we have pro vacc, doing the same thing with BS propaganda.
 Danger here is the anti vaccers get hold of it to knock the creditably of pro vaccers.

Beginning of the week Counties Manukau was 26th Nov for 90%  Now its into early Dec.

Government has dug a hole by committing so hard to the 90%...AND we being open for xmas..
 I can see a back down on the 90% for each DHB by the government.

What happens when we don't hit the mythical 90% vaccination rate?  As far as I can see nowhere in the world has achieved this, so what makes us think we can?And what is so special about 90%, it just seems to be a number randomly selected by someone.  

Kevin.S   It's a real shame that we started out so well with our response, but the government just never seemed to think beyond that first stage. [/QUOTE wrote: So confident they were, may I add.

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