Not many choices then,, thanks

The Ramps  on the Waikato river are open and boating is allowed on the lakes, checked this morning physically and the gates are open.

Good idea,,give  it  a good run in fresh water, winds got up today not sure if Rags is much better tomorrow

Bottom line I sick of the BS.
 Went thru the hong kong flu.. and not well.
 No social media BS back then, most of us just got vacced, and moved on
Teachers, elderly, lot other have been vacced by choice every yrb since then
No F.. ing social meda issues as with all the othe vaccines in the last 100 yrs.

We get vacced so have beds in hospitals if get real sick... just like a normal flu..for the last 50/50 yrs

Only this time social media BS and taxpaper grants enable a section of our society to milk our tax money SO LONG AS THEY DONT GET VACCED.
 Another $129m goes to icecreams , hungi and pay those supplying such incentives so these "pop up" vaccing centers
All while legit family business go bust, While their employees cant pay mortgages and rents..

Notice those who test +ve and permission to cross borders etc.. it tends to fizzle out?
Then we have other no permission ppl travel , peddling their illegal trades and wares, and those out breaks just spread over very wide areas?

Notice when check localities, those areas tends to be both lot underground activity and constant areas of interest, getting extra incomes  from the extra $129mil And vaccination level down around 50%?

Also notice those going on about "freedom" (lockdown restrictions etc) are also those  areas where there are low vacced  and our tax payer money gets pumped in to give away icecream and hungi etc.?

To vacc or not to vacc.. dangerous or not...freedom issue, lockdown issue?

Nah this has moved way on from that , its a small but critcal part of NZers who are miliking a the government

Just a stat :
I think there is approx 450 000  the Moari electoral roll..
 Thats about $500 per person.
A cash offer of $500 to be 2x vacced, rather than a fre icecream or a sausage on a slice a of bread would work better.
 We dont need 450,000 ppl to get 2x vacced to get out of lockdown.
 So lets make it $300 1st jab, $500 2nd jab...

Why at this stage should the majority of NZers allow a minority to milk the system and keep lockdown going , rather than just pay the ransom directly to the un vaccinated?

Reality is , 2 x Vacced Aucklanders and beyond have had enough, are now moving around , widening bubbles cautiously, amongst those also vacced. 

Reality is , doesnt realy matter if expand vacced or not..
When hit 90% will be same as now..
1/ those vacced may not even get sick, or mild.. chance of hospitalisation low... not much diff to normal un flu.
2/ those vacced and do need hospital will be mostly those who have other underlying issues , and age...
 no different to normal flu, except slightly higher numbers as per a bad normal flu yr
3/ those left un vacced because of the BS put out by those who are making money rotting subsities, are the ones who will get very sick, for a very long time, good chance may die baddly.

So do we need to fear the unvacced as we are lead to believe.. no.

Untill the government gets over it fear of being accused being racist...when all they should be doing is protecting all NZers as NZers.. evenly... simply stop the subistry rort..
 Open up lock down ..
And close of areas where it looks like our hospitals and staff are going to be over whelmed... and limit resources to those who by choice dont wish to be vacced...
And maintain normal health services to those ppl who have accidents , normal non covid retated health issues.

Without stressing out or nurses further.

  Its about Freedom of Choice AND taking personal  responsibility for that choice AND accepting the consequences.

So at the moment, stagnation reaching the magic 90% for all 3 Auckland DHBs.. with manukau area holding Auckland and the nation to ransom.

It is what it is.
 A government down in Wellington, that has no idea what is happening in Auckland who can only make populist policy, at the expense of all NZ and NZers.. in both quality of life and economically.
 Till they grow a set of balls...(no pun intended either)
The rorts, stupidity, lack of self responsibility and accountability and force acceptance of consequences, is just going draw out longer and longer

Updated version.

well....they could offer me 500k to get vaccinated and I still wouldnt...does that make you feel better?

Don't let it get nasty guys...

Big -Dave wrote: Don't let it get nasty guys...

Does it make you feel better that you have a much greater chance of ending up.......


Don't let it get nasty guys...

That nasty? 
Sorry I dont get it how it is nasty
 It is a legit question and I can see nothing that is insulting or degrading.

Have to add to that.
And does it worry you that it is these attitudes are also adding to the extension of lockdown, business going bust, ppl loosing jobs, serious family financial issues?



"Steps" should be no payment for anyone to get the covid jabs.  Going to offer $$ then all should get a payment even those who had the jabs.  Rather social responsibility.

Steps wrote: ...

I don't think that comment was aimed at you Steps.  We are all welcome to our point of view. F-F is welcome to his, You are welcome to yours. As long as we don't resort to personal attacks, I'm happy. I have hidden a post that crossed the line