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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 3:31pm
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Originally posted by bazza bazza wrote:

Leaving aside the possible right or wrongs of the issues being dealt with in this thread contributors should be aware of the type of comments that could result in defamation liability.
 
Had a post composed re the above that suddenly disappeared before it was posted outlining the situation as I understand it to be, but do not have time to re write so will need to complete later.
OK ... if you refer to someone as being dishonest, a thief, non trustworthy, devious or suchlike it is deemed to mean you are saying that person is intrinsically so by nature which is very likely going to be difficult to prove therefore would probably be labelled as being unfounded defamation.
 
However if using such terms in relation to a particular incident/s & can substantiate such claims then it may be considered insufficient cause to be judged legally defamatory, keeping in mind it is far easier to pursue a case of defamation than it is to defend against it.
 
Furthermore any public platform can be sued if it allows defamatory remarks to be published or circulated. This probably applies to this forum therefore admin could be left with little option but to edit, delete certain comments, close down or remove a thread.
 
In the public notices of this mornings' NZ herald theInsert Moviere is a retraction & an unreserved apology listed by a titanium rated member of this forum in regards to claims made against a certain individual.
 
It is perhaps likely this has been prompted by the threat of defamatory action which may or may not be warranted, but please note it has no connection whatsoever to the issues being discussed
on this thread.
 
 
 
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ay what happened in the herald? link plz
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The members last visit was November last year and the issue was unrelated to the forums, oh and "appears" to have been an untrue statement about someone else.

So, remember truth is the best defence to defamation!
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had a look but can't find anything relating to anything like that. post the link to it please
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 7:27pm
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If you can find out the personal or business details, you can file a dispute tribunal claim.
It costs only $45. You'll need to gather some evidence like print of messages, discussions and provide a detailed description. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 11:02am
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Just a thought but I would be happy to contribute to a fund to help tagit to settle up, as I said before I don't know him but he has my respect for past deeds. Would any of you be willing to join me? If someone who is more internet savy than I could sort out a crowd funding type scenario I'll start it with 50 bucks
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Great idea Tonto and he's been marvelous on the forums and has helped me out many times but I think I'll just wait til I hear from Daveand know the circumstances


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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Great idea Tonto and he's been marvelous on the forums and has helped me out many times but I think I'll just wait til I hear from Daveand know the circumstances

Nah bugger it. I'm good for $50


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Has anyone been to westhaven to see if Dreamboats is still operational??Go to Westhaven see if "Tagit" still moored there,ask around. 

Those involved need to do some back ground work first.


Try a company search and you may find the answers

My Wife has been and had a good look on the register and there are 2 shareholders and shareholding changes between the 2.
As of 8/5/2019 Dave is no longer a share holder but Kitrina is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 12:32pm
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Hmm, not what I can see on the companies register for Dreamboats Auckland Ltd PJC, which company are you talking about?

On the 8th of May the companies registered address was changed, but the shareholding was all transferred into David Morrow's name last year, and he is now the only director.
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Well heres another company to try as he is the owner

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Originally posted by SaltyC SaltyC wrote:

Hmm, not what I can see on the companies register for Dreamboats Auckland Ltd PJC, which company are you talking about?

On the 8th of May the companies registered address was changed, but the shareholding was all transferred into David Morrow's name last year, and he is now the only director.

Registered document

983497  DREAMBOATS AUCKLAND LIMITED
08 May 2019 16:42:15
Particulars of Company Address
Kitrina Helena JEFFS ( DREAMBOATS AUCKLAND LIMITED )
Box 90204
Victoria Street West
Auckland 1142
New Zealand

Registered document

983497  DREAMBOATS AUCKLAND LIMITED
26 May 2018 15:45:05
Particulars of Shareholding
Kitrina Helena JEFFS
39 Kelmarna Avenue
Ponsonby
Auckland 1011
New Zealand

Shareholders

Removed Shareholder
Kitrina Helena JEFFS
1 Wallace Street, Herne Bay, Auckland, 1011 , New Zealand

Share allocations

Amended Share Allocation
Shares
 
Kitrina Helena JEFFS
1 Wallace Street, Herne Bay, Auckland, 1011 , New Zealand
Shares
 
David Hugh MORROW
499 Hibiscus Coast Highway, Orewa, Auckland, 0931 , New Zealand

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Keep searching "Salty"
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Try reading it PJC, removed shareholder was Kitrina Jeffs, updated shareholder was David Morrow.
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Lads, if you are going to be lower deck lawyers shouldn't you keep the above to yourselves and off the forum? Ouch

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"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
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They are actually public records Catchelot so somewhat more reliable than "little birds"!

Just making sure that "Facts" are presented here and Dave is not cast in a light he doesn't deserve, he was the sole shareholder and director at the time of the offer to forum members. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 1:29pm
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Good idea Tonto2, I'm in.

The right question we should ask Dave is
Are you OK mate, instead of abusing him.
I never meet or know him but I know he is always helpful in this forum and I'm sure he needs our help right now.

I'm in for $1000 if that will put a smile on disgruntled fisho face.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 1:34pm
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If 50 bucks is all it takes from me to have the whinging buggers whose lives have been so savagely affected by such a dastartly deed, by someone who was trying to raise some funds for another cause, then so be it, i'm good for 50, just so I don't have to read about it.
For my 10cents worth, I hope everything is well with him and if not that he is managing. And that when he is ready, all will be settled. He is far to valuable member of this site, that contributes solid information and real life experience, and doesn't speculate or bluster. And I've never even met the guy!
So if 50 buck aint enough then let me know i'll raise it. And if any of you hard done by souls are that desperate for your money back immediately then i'll pay you entirely just to get you to f#%k the hell off for good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 1:54pm
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Have I got this right?

Dave put a post on this forum offering a charter on his boat. Some members replied and a date was set for the charter and Dave informed those what the arrangements were and any conditions including the cost? Payment upfront either in full or deposit ( not sure ) was required by Dave. Dave agreed ( as with almost all charters ) that if because of weather or conditions beyond his control all money paid would be refunded. 
I am not sure if Dave is actually in the charter business or his boat is licensed for commercial charters but that is another matter.
The charter has be cancelled by Dave ?? , due to weather. I am not sure if an alternative charter went ahead and the outstanding refunds are for those that could not make that date. In any event, a crew to cover costs must have been on board if this charter proceeded. 
At this point (some months ago), Dave has decided not to refund money owing to those he has taken money from for the original charter?. 
Dave has become uncontactable, evasive. 
This is usually referred to as a scam or theft irrespective of who the perpetrator is or their motivation.
To start pledging donations to support this is condoning it.
I don't buy for one second any sob story offered up by anyone in this situation to justify bailing Dave out. 
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