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I doubt those salmon even have any natural instincts let alone know what there supposed to eat,one of my favourite rigs is a float rig with a 1 mtr dropper,fill float half with water so you can cast it and let it drift from the middle into the shore .
Theres a lot of fish right at your feet at times .
Put split shot above crab to sink it .
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Originally posted by Jwest Jwest wrote:

What length leader do you use OWT? I had some success using a 5lb fluro leader but had trouble knotting it to 16lb braid which was obviously a bit heavy but that was what was on the spool at the time... do you use an FG knot as a connection?

I just saw this. Depending on my knot and overall setup I might use anywhere between 2.5m and .5m. I've had bites on rather short leaders. If I was using heavy braid I'd go a bit longer on the leader. 4lb microfuse doesn't show up as much, so I think you can get away with less leader. Water clarity is also important.

The Complete Angler guy usually starts at about 1.5m and then reties it when it gets really short, about 40cm.

If I had a rod with 16lb braid on I'd set it up with a 5m leader bait under a float with a bead that would stop at the braid leader knot. Or put on a top shot of lighter braid. From what I've seen, going heavier on the braid really limits your chances.
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Originally posted by OneWayTraffic OneWayTraffic wrote:

Originally posted by Jwest Jwest wrote:

What length leader do you use OWT? I had some success using a 5lb fluro leader but had trouble knotting it to 16lb braid which was obviously a bit heavy but that was what was on the spool at the time... do you use an FG knot as a connection?

I just saw this. Depending on my knot and overall setup I might use anywhere between 2.5m and .5m. I've had bites on rather short leaders. If I was using heavy braid I'd go a bit longer on the leader. 4lb microfuse doesn't show up as much, so I think you can get away with less leader. Water clarity is also important.

The Complete Angler guy usually starts at about 1.5m and then reties it when it gets really short, about 40cm.

If I had a rod with 16lb braid on I'd set it up with a 5m leader bait under a float with a bead that would stop at the braid leader knot. Or put on a top shot of lighter braid. From what I've seen, going heavier on the braid really limits your chances.


Thanks mate, appreciate the tips! Have since bought a new reel and spooled it with 4lb microfuse from Kaveman so ready to roll..whenever I get back down there again..
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OK, folks: thanks for all the advice.

My epic road trip (towing a tandem axle trailer with 2 race bikes in it to the Burt Munro from Russell, and back) starts 3am tomorrow.

I'm hoping to be at the canals Wednesday evening and Thursday morning.
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Post photos and trip reports. 

If you can't get any go to Tekapo bowl after dark with a blacklight and a fluoro bead pushed onto your jighead. 

I used an unscented glow in the dark plastic, and that didn't work so well, but when I cut a lump off it and pushed it up against the jighead with a gulp behind, I did much better.
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Yup, armed with fluoresecent beads as well as jigheads.

Depending on the time I arrive, "Wednesday evening" may well be Wednesday night. It's a set of long drives in a Navara ute towing a windbreak of a trailer - the trailer's only a bit more streamlined than our first generation Superbikes, and they look like this:


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Good luck for the Burt Munro PJay, you might need a raincoat by the looks.
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Hmmm... My race bike engine exploded on the 3rd lap of the first practice session, and I caught one small put-backer trout.

Not the most successful 4000km road trip. Still in Southland just now.
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Sometimes it's like that. Have another go on the way up if you can. 
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what model yoshi rod do you recommend please and how would it compare to the new Okuma canal rods eg CD extrasence nano ?  do you have an opinion please
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Hey. I'm still catching them on the Crucis, though I have gone through a couple of tips!

Any quality long rod will do. If I were buying now I'd just get the Nanomatrix canal to be honest. You can spend a lot more money for a little bit more sensitivity. It's more about time on the water and fishing deep. Globugs seems to be the latest thing on rainbows. 

I caught a decent salmon last time I was out, and again the year before. Salmon aren't nearly as common now though. It's just luck as to when there is a 'release' from the nets. They get caught quickly, and the companies are getting better at hanging on to their fish. Cry

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The Extrasense Nano 7'9" 3-10g is hands down the nicest canal rod I've ever used for softbaiting. Have fished with the Lox and Crucis rods and in terms of sensitivity and feel it it leagues ahead.

If you want to fish eggs/glo-bugs more often then it would be worth waiting a month and going for one of the new 8'3 or 9' models which I've been doing some testing with and are genuinely outstanding rods



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What a fish!! What a photo!!!!!
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Hey Helmsy good to see you are still getting into them. Percentage wise any chance of giving us an estimate of how many you would get on a standard okuma rod compared to the flash stuff?
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