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Whole sole dry fit. Managed to get it done with two sheets of plywood with a nice 1.2x0.8m section left over. Plan for the next few days is to glass the underside for added stiffness and durability and get it glued in. 
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Photos of sole fit in and also the glass and butt blocks going in on the underneath of the stern sole piece. 



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Finally got the sole on. Did it in sections with the back going in first then the front last weekend. Spent way too long on the inspection port holes. Making a router jig, cutting them out, sealing, puttying up where I cut out too much etc. Like every single penetration into the wood the screw holes are oversized and filled with putty. Screws will go in that; no possible path for water to get to the wood. The sole pieces are all glassed under with one layer of biaxial cloth and another will go on top to make a strong sandwich.

Process for gluing it down was as follows:
Grind the cleats and stringers to fresh wood with 100 grit on a grinder. Two coats epoxy and let gel. Then a thick mix of epoxy mixed with chopped glass on top. Then the sole placed on. The back sat nicely but I had to screw the front part down to the stringers and cleats. Removed screws today (24 hours cured) and filled the holes. Put a fillet around the perimeter mixed very thick with chopped glass. It makes a mess; impossible to lay it down smooth so it’s just for major fills. It does stay where you put it and is quite strong. Where I could I then went over with a thick mix of micro balloons to make the sanding part a bit easier when the time comes.

Photos in this forum no longer work with my iPhone. Not sure why so they will need to wait until I can get to a PC.

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Sole front showing tape splices and inspection port cutouts. Not my best work on that front one, but nobody will see it. 


Rear sole detail. 



Seam down the side showing putty. No leaks allowed in there. 


All in and ready to cure before a sand, fillet and top glass. 


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Finally got it glassed. Grinded out the excess putty from two weeks ago, then a layer of 400g tape on the sole to side join. Went over today with glass. 400g biaxial, which is probably overkill for the sole itself, but that's what I have in ample supply. 

My 4th 24L pack of epoxy is about half full. Most of the really thirsty glass jobs are done, only tape and light (100g or 200g) cloth to go on now. I'll order one more 12 or 24L pack of epoxy and that will probably do it. Will probably be close to 100L in the boat after waste. Expecting the boat to weigh about 650kg including fittings, gear and motors of which I may have three. (Trolling, kicker and main.)



Next job is to get in the motorwell framing and the other above deck frames. Then gunwales and cabin. Hoping to be onto the cabin by the end of the school holidays. 


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Starting to look good. When you thinking of splash? (Leo's standard answer whenever anyone asks is "two years from today" Smile )
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Unlikely to be this summmer. I will probably be finishing details for another year all going well. Some parts I will be able to build inside and then glue into the boat once done.
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Got the rear cabin frame in. One layer tape each side. Straps are to hold the sides in while the glue cures. Cleats on the bow side locate the berths. Frame was glassed both sides with 100g cloth before installing. I used some scrap pieces of plywood to make the side supports. These will hold the cabin sides in place. Sitting only headroom in the cabin. 85cm to 100cm max to the roof from the bunk. Under the bunk will be left open. Enough room for a tote tank or life jackets. Possibly some block foam under the bunks. Flotation and insulation if I ever sleep on board. Had considered an open layout but fishing down here is mostly drop and wind. I might be able to get on the cabin roof but walk around in a 5.3m boat means centre console.

Front side.

Rear side.



Really hot and humid working in there today. I have already filled the weave with a micro balloon putty but no photo.
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Going well..
 Enjoy the detail  knowledge , and learning in the project you are undetaking..hand on stuff.
The following has been on the back of my mind for a while now.
A current post elseware has made me think about this 'backyard' project... Undertaking this sort of thing, not only increases the tools in the workshop, but more important, ones knowledge and skills required to build, that become so useful in some many areas in the future... like full house renovation, plastering, making a kitchen or bathroom.
Even stuff like body resto on a classic car, a understanding of materials, and methods to block, spray etc..
Its so good to see others get right into such projects, big or small doesnt matter, its learn , experience and knowledge, and confidence for the future projects whatever direction they maybe.
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Cheers for the feedback, certainly been a learning experience for sure. I’m not sure about other projects but if anything ever breaks on this you can bet that I’ll not be taking it to a dealer to fix. I know every little detail like for example that frame is very slightly out of square not quite lined up with my pencil line one side. Or what mix of putty I used in all the fillets and how many layers went where. No professional outfit ever knew a boat so well.

What’s left? Motor well framing structure over the next weekend, then the rest of the frames, side seating, flotation tanks, built in chilly bin, gunwales,fairing, paint, fittings and outboard. All more or less in that order. Weather permitting I’ll get a lot of that done this summer/autumn then get the cabin sorted along with hardtop in winter/spring . Hardtop will either be sealed with plexiglass and framing or just a hard cover with clears. I plan to attach it with bolts onto the cuddy roof, so it’s less of a sail on the road. Not decided finally yet.

Also not sure if I’ll bother with a front hatch. I’ll be able to walk around or anchor on a running line with buoy.

Still a lot to do but I’m already wondering what the next build would be! Not going to tell the wife; need to win lotto first.
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Getting the furniture in. Some hatches on the way from Marine Deals. Port side bench will be a metre long, sealed up with a hatch for access. Starboard side about 600mm with hopefully the right amount of room for me to stand in front, or sit back on the bench. Front side of that bench will be higher, more leaning post than seat. Thought about buying a seat but cheaper, stronger and longer lasting to build it from wood and put a cushion on the front. Next job is to get it all tabbed in with glass. 


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I can't wait to see the finished article and a summary of what it takes to do a project like this.
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Not sure by exactly what you mean by 'what it takes.' 

Short answer: Set of plans, some powertools, a place to build, and about $10,000 in materials for the hull. 


I didn't have any experience in plywood epoxy years ago, so built that little dinghy to gain some. I also got a lot of support online from those that have built their own boats; I don't think I would have been able to do this without the internet. 

Most important factor is being a bit stubborn. Several times I could have given up, but I just keep plugging away at it. Bite away a little each day. I can see the end of it now, but in no hurry to get it done. 

You certainly don't need to be a craftsman. If you look at MarkE's SS18 thread, the quality of his work is well ahead of mine, but one of the great things about the material is that any mistake can be fixed. I'm getting better at it as I move along as well. 

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In fact looking just at that last photo I can see at least 5 mistakes that I've made and fixed. 
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Originally posted by OneWayTraffic OneWayTraffic wrote:

Not sure by exactly what you mean by 'what it takes.' 

Short answer: Set of plans, some powertools, a place to build, and about $10,000 in materials for the hull. 


I didn't have any experience in plywood epoxy years ago, so built that little dinghy to gain some. I also got a lot of support online from those that have built their own boats; I don't think I would have been able to do this without the internet. 

Most important factor is being a bit stubborn. Several times I could have given up, but I just keep plugging away at it. Bite away a little each day. I can see the end of it now, but in no hurry to get it done. 

You certainly don't need to be a craftsman. If you look at MarkE's SS18 thread, the quality of his work is well ahead of mine, but one of the great things about the material is that any mistake can be fixed. I'm getting better at it as I move along as well. 


That's what I mean. How many hours do you think you would have spent on it?
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According to the designer: 'the hull can be built in 80 hours, and a finished boat will require 200 hours or more depending on the level of detail and the skills of the builder.'  This is time spread out over some weeks.

I don't know anyone that can do that. It might be possible if you knew exactly what you were doing and had a well set up shop with everything at hand. Extra pairs of hands, a production line, not overly fussy about appearance and a CNC system for cutting pieces might even reduce that time. 

For mere mortals like me I would guess over 1,000 hours so far, not including all the time I've spend sitting in it admiring my work, stuffing around not being organised or pondering over plans on the internet, or sorting trailers and fish finders etc. It's a labour of love and I'm costing my time the same way I cost time spent fishing. 

I've seen it take anywhere from 6 weeks to ten years (still not finished!) 



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 nside is glassed with a light cloth and some initial fairing over. No photos of that but I do have some initial photos of the cooler I am building under the port bench. Construction is plywood with a light glass on the hull side with pour foam between the cooler and the hull proper. The other panels have block foam covered in a micro balloon putty then 400g biax over that to protect the inside from fish spines etc. All the inside will be coated the same as the outside hull. Aluminium and silica filled putty. I am fabricating it outside of the boat and will assemble with fillets inside. I don’t think I need to tape the inside corners if I use a big enough fillet.
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Nice work, no one could expect to sit down for 1000 hours straight to finish the project. Two years now since you first posted, not bad going at all.
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