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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ : Some good oil here...Thanks for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=76906">ReelAppealLures</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 6:35pm<br /><br />Some good oil here...&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the input Nomis...</div><div><br></div><div>I wouldn't go near those Penn spinners Tzer they won't match the quality you get with Shimano. It would seem you won't beat the Stradic for both price and performance in this bracket.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be interested in info on the Sustain, I was recommending this reel to a friend for light jigging after some F.Net feedback but maybe the Stradic would save him some pinga's for more jigs&nbsp;<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :      Cheers , I only had...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71503">Nomis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 2:56pm<br /><br /><div>Cheers , I only had the schematic spec sheets on the FJ up to the 5000 model,&nbsp;&nbsp;working off these models&nbsp;presumed it&nbsp;was&nbsp;carried through to the bigger sizes although I did question that in my original post!!! </div><div>good to see they have used Carbon in the 8000 size.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does it have&nbsp;the bearing under spool or is it running direct on the shaft??? smaller size schematic's&nbsp;doesn't show&nbsp;it... </div><div></div><div></div><div></div>May still be a good option for Craig then... &#091;/QUOTE&#093;<div>&nbsp;</div><div>All good Graham. No bearing under the spool but doesnt run direct to the main shaft has 2 support spacers as well as your usual spool washers. </div><div>Nice little reels !</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :   Nomis wrote:   Men In Black...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62578">Men In Black</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 11:14am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nomis" alt="Originally posted by Nomis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nomis wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Men In Black" alt="Originally posted by Men In Black" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Men In Black wrote:</strong><br /><br />Save your pingers Craig, I think you will find the Stradic to be a bit too little duty for what you want... If the&nbsp;Stradic 8000 FJ is the same drag design as the other FJ's in the &nbsp;Stradic line up &nbsp;they still&nbsp;use "Oil Felt" drag washers, great in a light duty reel but if you get one big running Kingfish and have to up the drag anywhere near max the heat will pump the oil out of the Felt drag and they get very jerky real quick. Carbertex upgrade would fix the problem but create a set of new issues as the internals of the reel aren't rated to handle the extra pressure..... <DIV>Best advice is to hold you $$$ for either a TwinPower 10000 SW, Stella 8000SW, or the new Daiwa Catalina 4500 or 5000 that is due out soon. All of these will be better suited to prolonged use on&nbsp;Kingfish...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you saw "Big Angry Fish" last weekend you will have seen what these reels need to be capable of anything less will let you down sooner or later... mind you they were in very shallow water and had to lock and load</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>hmm Men in black where did you come across this piece of info? - the below pics dont look like a "oil felt" drag to me</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Wont be any issues that men in balck has mentioned - having kings go on long runs / heat build up etc&nbsp;- pics below should speak for its self&nbsp;- no point up grading these to a carbontex</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/uploads/71503/CIMG1907.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1908.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1909.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1910.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1911.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Oil felts are used in the smaller soft bait reels up to the 4000&nbsp;how ever</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Cheers , I only had the schematic spec sheets on the FJ up to the 5000 model,&nbsp;&nbsp;working off these models&nbsp;presumed it&nbsp;was&nbsp;carried through to the bigger sizes although I did question that in my original post!!! <DIV>good to see they have used Carbon in the 8000 size.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does it have&nbsp;the bearing under spool or is it running direct on the shaft??? smaller size schematic's&nbsp;doesn't show&nbsp;it... </DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>May still be a good option for Craig then... ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 11:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ : I am not a expert but with a backbone...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=79905">ponty</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 10:10am<br /><br />I am not a expert but with a backbone wouldn't It not be as good quality as say a T Curve popper rod so you wouldn't want to put as much strain on it with a twinpower/stella but a stradic instead? However I know those backbones are pretty good quality and great value for money so mite be fine.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :       Men In Black wrote:Save...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71503">Nomis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 9:59am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Men In Black" alt="Originally posted by Men In Black" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Men In Black wrote:</strong><br /><br />Save your pingers Craig, I think you will find the Stradic to be a bit too little duty for what you want... If the&nbsp;Stradic 8000 FJ is the same drag design as the other FJ's in the &nbsp;Stradic line up &nbsp;they still&nbsp;use "Oil Felt" drag washers, great in a light duty reel but if you get one big running Kingfish and have to up the drag anywhere near max the heat will pump the oil out of the Felt drag and they get very jerky real quick. Carbertex upgrade would fix the problem but create a set of new issues as the internals of the reel aren't rated to handle the extra pressure.....<div>Best advice is to hold you $$$ for either a TwinPower 10000 SW, Stella 8000SW, or the new Daiwa Catalina 4500 or 5000 that is due out soon. All of these will be better suited to prolonged use on&nbsp;Kingfish...</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>If you saw "Big Angry Fish" last weekend you will have seen what these reels need to be capable of anything less will let you down sooner or later... mind you they were in very shallow water and had to lock and load</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>hmm Men in black where did you come across this piece of info? - the below pics dont look like a "oil felt" drag to me</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Wont be any issues that men in balck has mentioned - having kings go on long runs / heat build up etc&nbsp;- pics below should speak for its self&nbsp;- no point up grading these to a carbontex</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/uploads/71503/CIMG1907.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1908.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1909.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1910.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="uploads/71503/CIMG1911.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Oil felts are used in the smaller soft bait reels up to the 4000&nbsp;how ever</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 09:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ : Updated as per Nomis FJ 8000 exploded...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62578">Men In Black</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 9:05am<br /><br />Updated as per Nomis FJ 8000 exploded view]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 09:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :     Clay wrote:   Nomis wrote:few...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71503">Nomis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 May 2012 at 8:39am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Clay" alt="Originally posted by Clay" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Clay wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nomis" alt="Originally posted by Nomis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nomis wrote:</strong><br /><br />few guys here at Shimano NZ use them as a reel of choice for innergulf top water my self included&nbsp;(keep in mind we all have access to twin powers and Stellas as well)</td></tr></table> <div>&nbsp;</div><div>Agree they are nice reels, however if price isn't a consideration, on what basis would you choose it over a TP or Stella?</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Because they are awesome :P - I still use both twin power and stella as well as but i wouldnt turn down using the stradic - if it were a 3 kings / ranfurley bank trip it may be stellas , twin powers only, as Id be wanting to use 80LB braid and a bigger size reel. put it this way I dont know any one here who would be up set at haviung to use the Stradic... </div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 08:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :   Nomis wrote:few guys here at...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=42263">Clay</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 May 2012 at 10:14pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nomis" alt="Originally posted by Nomis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nomis wrote:</strong><br /><br />few guys here at Shimano NZ use them as a reel of choice for innergulf top water my self included&nbsp;(keep in mind we all have access to twin powers and Stellas as well)</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Agree they are nice reels, however if price isn't a consideration, on what basis would you choose it over a TP or Stella?</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 22:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ : Cheers guys will continue to some...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53939">Tzer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 May 2012 at 8:52pm<br /><br />Cheers guys will continue to some homework but the Stradic is probably the way we will go.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stradic 8000FJ :   Twin power vs stradic - comparing...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71503">Nomis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 79120<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 May 2012 at 1:32pm<br /><br />Twin power vs stradic&nbsp; -&nbsp; comparing apples vs oranges here in the size stradic TZER is after, Twin powers not in a 8000 jumps from 4000 to a 10000sw only... <div>&nbsp;</div><div>The FJ stradics have X-ship gearing (same system as the FE stellas) Take a look on shimano web site to see what x ship is - will give you some good understanding there are a few videos on the US shimano web page to explain this.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Stradic FJ will be a good match up for the BBE popper rod - Sufficient drag / line capacity / and reliability from a reliable brand</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Has 13 KG max drag /&nbsp; Bearings + 1 anti reverse (6 total) Paladin gearing 4:8:1 gear ratio</div><div>and only 580 gramms&nbsp;&nbsp;- has the specs to be a absolute work horse reel few guys here at Shimano NZ use them as a reel of choice for innergulf top water my self included&nbsp;(keep in mind we all have access to twin powers and Stellas as well)</div>]]>
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