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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :   Hi Paketi, this is how I like...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48061">Ahab</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Nov 2012 at 7:58am<br /><br /><img src="uploads/48061/Piper_cookery_022.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><div><br></div><div>Hi Paketi, this is how I like to hook piper. This is an owner super mutu size 2 on 60lb mono. Fluoro trace sinks, dragging the piper and wearing them out. I also don't use a float or a swivel, just mainline to trace. The rod is set up to be parallel with the water's surface to reduce wind movement and to allow the predator to move off with the piper more easily without ripping it off the hook.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Michael Jenkins put me on to this method and it works a treat. The piper will (surprisingly) behave quite well with no weight, swimming out from the rocks and wiggling enticingly on the surface.</div><div><br></div><div>Then all you have to worry about is shags, seals, gannets, black backed gulls, kahawai etc stealing your lovingly prepared kingfish bait.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid : Not sureif anyone has said this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=78056">I_caught_a_Paketi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 11:06pm<br /><br />Not sure&nbsp;if anyone has said this but for people new to livebaiting&nbsp; from my own noob experience <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>DONT&nbsp;TOUCH PIPER&nbsp;if you intend using&nbsp;them for a livebait, otherwise it will be floating upside down before you even get it in the water.&nbsp; Also, dont hook them like you maybe a KY or Yellowtail above the neck at the top. Hook em underneath at the back</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>All use a smaller hook #. Just because&nbsp;we want to catch something big like a kingfish, you can still bring them in on a #5 hook. Using a hook too big can also end up in similer results,&nbsp;a floating upside down piper. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The bigger hook # is better&nbsp;for KY.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :   Good idea Tipper, those ziplocks...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48061">Ahab</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 10:32pm<br /><br />Good idea Tipper, those ziplocks are one of the great inventions of the plastic age.<div><br></div><div>Here's one which I think needs some going over, and I hope The Cook will look it over and smooth out any wrinkles:<br><div><br></div><div><b>Every so often we catch a really solid fish</b>, more often for some than others. I've only caught 3 really big snapper in my life, pretty modest for the amount of time I've spent trying to catch them! While I will let some of them go (my first two I released), I also like to keep them, like a very special 18lb snapper I caught earlier this year:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/48061/SnortlerBag.jpg" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>Here's my report on this fish if you're interested:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/big-day-&#111;n-the-hauraki_topic79353.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/big-day-on-the-hauraki_topic79353.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>To cook bigger than average fish, eg big snapper, any size kingfish or hapuka, plus a few others, takes a bit of a rethink. If you just fillet them and put the thick fillet in the pan, the heat is going to take a long time to travel through the outer layers of flesh to the centre, leading to the fillet drying out and losing its flavour and delicate texture. A fillet cooked this way will be as dry and tough as Moses's jandal, which I think is one of the reasons a lot of people consider larger fish to be poor eating.</div></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;However, if you convert the thick fillet into smaller pieces, the heat will travel to the centre more rapidly, cooking the meat before the moisture has been cooked out. This leaves a smaller, but moist and tender, cut. There a couple of ways of doing this.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The one I use involves cutting the fillet into two long pieces down the centre, ie. continuing the V that you make when you remove the pin bones.</div><div><br></div><div>You then have two long triangles of meat. Cut across&nbsp;these so that you are left with medallions of flesh about 30mm thick. At the tapered end of the fillet it will get skinny enough that you no longer need to keep slicing, and you'll be left with a normal looking fillet which can be cooked in the usual way.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;<img src="uploads/48061/Roasted-medalli&#111;ns-of-beef-.jpg" height="290" width="334" border="0" /></div><div>Medallions of cooked beef.</div><div><br></div><div>You then have two flat surfaces to fry. The idea is that the moment fish flesh gets white (at 50-55 degrees celcius), it is cooked, so you want to watch the white move up the side of the medallion until it reaches half way, then turn it with one of these:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/48061/Fish_slices_001.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>For some reason these aren't in fashion any more. I have had to scour many op shops to find them, as even dedicated kitchen shops don't seem to stock them. <b>Avoid</b> using this kind of crap:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/48061/Fish_slices_002.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>These things seem to just bulldoze delicate fish, eggs etc around the pan. I don't know who invented them, but he needs a thorough beating! I would extend that to the clumsy plastic tongs en vogue at the moment. Why mess with a perfect design?</div><div><br></div><div>The other way I know of to deal with a thick fillet is to cut it into two thinner fillets. I haven't actually done this myself, but I believe you lay the fillet flat on a board, place your hand on the top surface and lie the blade of the knife parallel to the board. You then carefully work it between hand and board to the tapered end of the fillet so you are left with two thinner fillets which will cook more rapidly, thus retaining their moisture, flavour and texture.</div><div><br></div><div>These methods work well for thick fillets of fish like kingfish as well as snapper. Check out The Cook's excellent guide for how to get fillet a king here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/kingfish-john-dory-filleting-preparing_topic78738.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/kingfish-john-dory-filleting-preparing_topic78738.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here are some crumbed kingfish medallions prior to cooking:</div><div><img src="uploads/48061/Kingfish_cooking_5.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54306">smudge</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Nov 2012 at 5:43pm<br /><br />Good to see this one still going strong. Looking back isn't it kind of ironic that H2O_Dependant posted a pic of a boat high and dry?&nbsp;<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :     forget the plastic tackle...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=79469">Tipper</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Nov 2012 at 3:18pm<br /><br />forget the plastic tackle box -&nbsp; a softbait wallet or two, and a selection of zip bags from WarehouseStationery keeps every thing:<div>dry</div><div>visible</div><div>untangled</div><div>easy to sort</div><div>did I say dry?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Take a few hooks, swivels, rings etc, and put em in a zippee in the wallet; leave the rest at home.</div><div>Who needs 100 hooks on a fishing day trip?</div><div>Unpack any rigs and put 'em in the wallet</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I have three such wallets, one softie, one 'bottom/bait' &nbsp;fish, one jig, and I can grab and run .</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>takes a little bit of discipline to 'restock' when you get home from a trip.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Never put 'used' traces or hooks back in - I keep one big 'wet' zip bag for&nbsp; al th stuff that got salt water on it; wash and recycle</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="uploads/79469/photo1.JPG" height="599" width="450" border="0" /></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67743">The cook</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Nov 2012 at 2:33pm<br /><br />While looking for some info I came back across this thread, has to be worth a bump, thought it had been stickied]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid : When navigating down a narrow...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70961">H2O_dependant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 Jul 2012 at 7:23am<br /><br /><DIV>When navigating down a narrow channel in the dark on an outgoing tide via spotlight - probably should stick to 5 knots and not 20 knots - else it can be along morning of drowning ones sorrows when one turns the wrong way due to a red reflector on a green marker.....</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/uploads/70961/&#111;n_the_dry.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also ensure one has a well stocked boat for such situations.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :  Reel wraps. These are good for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48061">Ahab</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 May 2012 at 2:10pm<br /><br /><b>Reel wraps. </b>These are good for keeping line tidy on your reels. The line clips that you get with some reels tend to be too small for thicker trace, so you end up with the line springing off all over the place.<div><br></div><div>Buy an old wettie and cut rings out of the sleeves. I got one from the Salvation Armani store for $12 (Auckland Central ripoff prices!), and it's made heaps.</div><div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/48061/Reel_wraps_001.JPG" height="337" width="450" border="0" /><br></div><div><br></div><div>If the loop of neoprene is too wide for a small reel, you could easily sew/glue it a bit smaller.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just to give some locals a plug, you can also buy pro models from here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/fishing/salt-water/boat-reels/aucti&#111;n-474799893.htm" target="_blank">http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/fishing/salt-water/boat-reels/auction-474799893.htm</a></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 14:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :     MrRabbit wrote:Mistakes...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48061">Ahab</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Apr 2012 at 8:43pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by MrRabbit" alt="Originally posted by MrRabbit" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>MrRabbit wrote:</strong><br /><br />Mistakes to avoid; letting T.L get photos of you with a silly "Ooooh I got a big one this time!" look on your face and posting them online...<div><br></div><div>Kodak moment that one Tom!</div></td></tr></table><div>Great shot eh! I got his permission to publicise it, but I haven't caught up with him to get the full story.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Mistakes to avoid :     krow wrote:Top Thread Ahab!To...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48061">Ahab</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 75958<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Apr 2012 at 8:42pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by krow" alt="Originally posted by krow" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>krow wrote:</strong><br /><br />Top Thread Ahab!<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /><br>To hold 2 piece rods together for carrying on land base trips I use a small ring of bike inner tube. If I'm carrying more than one they are held together with a ring of motorbike inner tube. Lasts for years and is much easier than tape. Always take the reel off the rod for transport. I've seen nylon run off the spool for 100's of meters once snagged on a tree and reels arrive missing the handle or just as bad the little nut on the other side of the reel that holds the handle.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Funny Krow, I just found one of those nuts on the path at Ti Point (about the same place I lost my split ring pliers!).&nbsp;</div>]]>
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