The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Canyon Reels https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Tue, 09 Jun 2026 02:04:36 +0000 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:10:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=75485 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : There is also much in what you...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078703&title=canyon-reels#1078703 Author: Capt Asparagus
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 10:10am

There is also much in what you say there too BFB. However, they do indeed still innovate in their reel designs etc... it is just that they then ship those innovations off to their chinese factories to be made.
I was talking to a friend who knows very well what happens in china, the factory making these reels (or whatever) get the order for, say, 25000 reels of XXmmmyippee reels for XYZ corp in the states. So, they gear up for it, get going, and in 4 months, all done and dusted, order filled. So, as that finishes, they call XYZ corp asking for the next order...."whaddaya mean, that is all we wanted for this year at least, probably for next year as well!" "Eek!" goes the chinese plant," but we are belting out 1000 units a week, what are we supposed to do with the damn things!". So, they invent a name, slap it on the side instead of XYZ corps badge and keep on banging them out. That is why so many products you see on the market now look so darn similar, all made in the same plants, same components, just different badges.
]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:10:42 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078703&title=canyon-reels#1078703 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : No it&#039;s parochialism on the...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078656&title=canyon-reels#1078656 Author: Bigfishbob
Subject: 75485
Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 8:12am

No it's parochialism on the part of the americans. Their economy is down, so everynow and then they get on their hobby horses and chant "buy american made"!
 
This issue of asian made parts being made in America gets under their skin because they think they're doing their economy a favour by buying these reels and buying American made.
 
In their view, the fact that everybody is buying cheap asian imports is the cause of the downfall of the american economy. Actually the size of their debt to China says they're right, however forcing everybody to buy american made, won't solve their problem.
 
They need to learn how to innovate again.
]]> Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:12:00 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078656&title=canyon-reels#1078656 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : I think it is American or japanese...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078289&title=canyon-reels#1078289 Author: Capt Asparagus
Subject: 75485
Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 10:15am

I think it is American or japanese versus chinese made (and therefore suspect q.c.)
It is the same as the stigma of being Made in Japan was in the middle of last century, when the japs had a city renamed to be called Usa, so they could stamp "Made in USA" on their stuff :-)  (probably an urban myth that one, but funny i think).
However, the quality issues in china are quickly being overcome.... you can still get cheap and crappy stuff, for sure, but they also make some of the best gear there too, the customer just has to specify exactly what they want and expect.
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Subject: 75485
Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:57am

Why is made in american better out of curiosity?]]> Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:57:33 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078278&title=canyon-reels#1078278 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : If you want a reel that is 100%...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078271&title=canyon-reels#1078271 Author: reeldeal
Subject: 75485
Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:48am

If you want a reel that is 100% made in the USA look at the Avets, I have been to their factory, and have photos reels being built there. The make all their parts, assemble and even service them all in the one factory in Los Angeles]]> Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:48:58 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078271&title=canyon-reels#1078271 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : Yeah, good point Chris, the rods...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078113&title=canyon-reels#1078113 Author: Capt Asparagus
Subject: 75485
Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 9:01pm

Yeah, good point Chris, the rods is a good example , the design of the rods is here, blanks are made from imported materials, eye size and placement etc up to the individual rod builder.... that is a legit "NZ made" item in my book. ]]> Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:35 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078113&title=canyon-reels#1078113 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : Capt Asparagus wrote:Gondwanaland...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078097&title=canyon-reels#1078097 Author: ChrisW
Subject: 75485
Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 8:32pm

Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

Gondwanaland Barrie :-)
I would think to qualify as a "made in...." sticker, the design would have to originate in that place and componentry assembled in that place to make the finished product.
Sourcing components off-shore doesn't really make the difference to me, as very few places in the world would have the complete industries to manufacture any complex machine entirely in-country.
Given that though, I have no problems with stuff being made in china or where-ever, as long as it is done under rigorous supervision to ensure the final product is made to the standard one would expect.

 
how do the NZ rod companis get away with "made in NZ' stickers?
the guides, graphite material and resins are all made overseas.  Only the labour is from NZ.
 
I inquired a few years ago to have my flasher rigs classed as MINZ, guess what - NO!.  If you want to argue, go see a lawyer.  Only the hooks, beads, materials and paint were imported!  Header cards were printed in NZ but used imported foils and ink!
 
Couldn't be bothered!
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Subject: 75485
Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 8:13pm

Originally posted by connor-gistat connor-gistat wrote:

wait 6 months and then ask Epic about them. if they can stand the test on Epic then its a good product, if not then bin it. just my opinion!
could be setting the bar a bit high there . would any reel handle six months of hoodlums tortureing them without needing few bits replaced here and there and regular stripping down .
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Subject: 75485
Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 6:14pm

wait 6 months and then ask Epic about them. if they can stand the test on Epic then its a good product, if not then bin it. just my opinion!]]> Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:14:13 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1078017&title=canyon-reels#1078017 <![CDATA[Canyon Reels : LOL smudge too true....ive...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75485&PID=1077986&title=canyon-reels#1077986 Author: Fletch
Subject: 75485
Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 5:43pm

LOL smudge too true....ive got so much nz made stuff that was OBVIOUSLY  made at 4.30 on a friday.
 
side note....PJay....are you a laywer?
 
This may well turn into a Femme fatale thread if Jimmy Nail is lucky enoughWink
 
 
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