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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : i had a force 25 hp ,3cylinder...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101604">cressie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Sep 2021 at 9:05am<br /><br />i had a force 25 hp ,3cylinder motor ,long shaft ,i found it very reliable and smooth running . the problem is parts are almost impossible to get. i found out the hard way ,took the head of to de salt water channels.......gaskets impossible to get ,had to sell motor for parts]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : Anyone know anything about the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=89522">JasonEdward62</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Nov 2020 at 1:28pm<br /><br />Anyone know anything about the Force 25 hp engine? Any good?<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : ive just sold my little seanymph...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67672">davethefisho</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2010 at 7:21am<br /><br />ive just sold my little seanymph and that had a 35hp chrysler on the back of it. I cannot say enough about this old motor, always took us out, always got us back. had it for 4 years and only broke down once due to a fuel problem not the motor. I guess its more that if the motor has been looked after, it will look after you. Id buy another chrysler in a heartbeat.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 07:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : They were popular in SA too. My...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53385">Seadoc</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 May 2010 at 12:58pm<br /><br />They were popular in SA too. My uncle &nbsp;had a 55hp Chrysler and we did a lot of skiing behind it. I recall him telling us Mercs were high speed racing engines and Chryslers workhorses! (we had a Merc of course)]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 12:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards :   Seadoc wrote:Very interesting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69254">Catchelot</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 May 2010 at 9:58am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Seadoc" alt="Originally posted by Seadoc" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Seadoc wrote:</strong><br /><br />Very interesting and thought provoking post Catchelot! I think many of us are guilty in slating and stereotyping &nbsp;products we do not know well enough to comment on!</td></tr></table>&nbsp; <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Exactly Seadoc, they weren't all bad... Chryslers were very popular here in 70's but you either got a goodie or a pig.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 09:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : The Lada of outboards? ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=73560">Brooook</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 May 2010 at 9:34am<br /><br />The Lada of outboards? <img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 09:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : Very interesting and thought provoking...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53385">Seadoc</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 May 2010 at 9:19am<br /><br />Very interesting and thought provoking post Catchelot! I think many of us are guilty in slating and stereotyping &nbsp;products we do not know well enough to comment on!]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 09:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : Force is a Chrysler derivative,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69254">Catchelot</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Apr 2010 at 4:49pm<br /><br />Force is a Chrysler derivative, two fellas I know had them, they had no probs, so like the Chryslers you either got a goodee or one that wooden work... Chrysler did have there shockers, anyway being yankee motors&nbsp;here is some info on them...<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Chrysler sold the engine line to Bayliner, who I believe are the ones who gave it the Force name. They wanted low cost engines to factory rig their boats, perhaps an idea of ahead of it's time.</DIV><DIV>Then, when Brunswick purchased Bayliner, these probably unwanted, and mostly obsolete, engines came with the deal.</DIV><DIV>Mercury decided to spruce them up and improve them, with Mercury gear cases/props, CD ignition systems, etc., and market them as 2nd tier engines. I understand, they were actually pretty good, but not really hot performers and with a second tier, "cheapout" image for the owners. The situation spooked Yamaha and OMC enough that they downgraded their own lines, removing oil injection and other items, so they, too, would have a second tier line. OMC called them the "Special" engines, with odd ball HP number to set them apart. Yamaha had a designation for theirs also. As clean technology became mandated, this engine had to die, so Mercury dumped it in favor of putting Merc engine son Bayliners, and all their other brands also.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Look at it as an economical motor, without much re-sale value. But it will get you around</DIV><DIV>The FORCE brand name has been abandoned. This, in itself, is an indicator of the general public opinion of the engines. If the brand carried any particular special attraction, I don't think the manufacturer would have dropped it.<BR>The FORCE brand now seems to carry a negative connotation. Whether that is completely deserved or not is a matter for a good debate. As LHG chronicled, the engines were always positioned as a low-cost alternative.</DIV><DIV>When considering purchase of a used FORCE engine, in addition to all the usual cautions, you should consider the generally lower value given to these products by most boaters.</DIV><DIV>A little known fact. When U.S. Marine needed a new moniker for its new line of outboards, it was decided that "FORCE" was an easy abbreviation for:<BR>"F&#091;reak&#093;ing Old Rebuilt Chrysler Engine" </DIV><DIV>And there you have the history of FORCE. </DIV><DIV>And yes, the 5 cylinder 150s with the broken crankshafts and occassional frisby flywheel where ahead of their time. </DIV><DIV>RIP Force. </DIV><DIV>Worked for a Bayliner dealer 2 summers ago. We took in trade MANY Bayliner packages from back in the 80's that still had their original Force engines running in excellent condition, and these were from back in the Chrysler/Force days. I worked part-time at a FORCE outboard dealer in c.1985 when I was in college. The dealer sold them with his Maxim boat line (top-shelf Bayliners). My job was to set the boats up. We sold a lot of 17', 20' and 23' MAXIM boats which came with either 85 or125 Force outboard motors or 3.0- or 5.0-liter MerCruiser sterndrive motors. Most of the boats we sold were sterndrives, but the 85 and 125 outboard motors that went out the door never seemed to come back. Most of our clients were boaters on a freshwater lake, so maybe that had something to do with it. I do remember these US Marine Force outboards being easy to install and set up. The F-5 150 was announced just before I left, but I never saw hardly any of those motors out in the field. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I guess there'll always be engine badge bigots.... I've owned Merc, Yamaha, Evinrude and a bunch of others. My '92 Montauk, which I bought new in 92, came unrigged. I didn't hesitate to put a "Force by Mercury" 90 on it. First major point was the over $1000 I saved on an engine. That engine gave me 4-1/2 years of flawless performance - averaging 100-200 hours per year. Never needed a single part or service call. The buyer I sold it to is STILL running that motor and has had no malfunctions whatsoever. I got a lot of static about this observation, but I'll repeat it regardless. I met up with another '90's Montauk with a major brand-name 90 on it, and we had a run-off on the St. Croix River. Essentially the same loads on both boats. I ran his flippers off. In 1/2 mile, he was a little more than 900 feet astern... Engine weight may have been a factor, since my Force had no oil injection system, but I'd put that motor against any 90 of its era. I understood that essentially the only original Force components were the main block/powerhead - the rest was Mercury.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : Hey thanks all, capt asp : by...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=75368">BuzzyBee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Apr 2010 at 5:22pm<br /><br />Hey thanks all, capt asp : by the sounds of it ,he wont have much luck selling it anywhere especially&nbsp;on here <img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp; Hav decided, not to go ahead with the boat in the end, thanks guys.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Force Outboards : Would you trust your life to a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54324">Capt Asparagus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 53124<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Apr 2010 at 8:03am<br /><br />Would you trust your life to a Force? Never mate. OK if you're only going to be using it for skiing on hydro lakes where slowly drifting to a nice sandy shoreline is not a problem.... but I personally would never trust one to get me home if I were out wide and the wind was rising.<br>Real hard to get parts, and those would be second hand.<br>Resale value... nil, or as close to nil as to make no difference.<br>If you like the boat, ask the dude if he'd sell Hull Only, and let him see if he can flick off the motor himself! :-)<br>]]>
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