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The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Net building caddis pattern https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Mon, 15 Jun 2026 14:17:53 +0000 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:44:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=42781 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Nope, haven't tried squirrel;...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=627006&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#627006 Author: Swine Hunter
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Posted: 20 Aug 2009 at 2:44pm

Nope, haven't tried squirrel; might keep an eye out for the Fine and Dry Dub - could be worth a crack to get the colour right.

Haven't used Thin Skin sorry so can't comment. Metz Scud does the trick for me.

]]> Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:44:09 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=627006&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#627006 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Have you tried the squirrel dubbing?...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626562&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626562 Author: Te Awa Kairangi Angler
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Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 2:24pm

Have you tried the squirrel dubbing? One that isn't too bright and is a nice caddis colour is Golden Olive. It seems to go a little darker too when wet and brushes out well for that bristly life-like look.

For really fine and drab dubbings there is Fine and Dry Dub from Feather Merchants. I picked up a new one this morning. For body material, the colour is good but with velcro they tend to fluff out rather than spike out. What about seals fur for legs and thorax?

Is there much difference between your Metz Scud Back and Thin Skin?

]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:24:10 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626562&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626562 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : I'm pretty happy with the...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626464&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626464 Author: Swine Hunter
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Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 10:41am

I'm pretty happy with the cream caddis dubbing used on the fly in tha image above so am sticking with that. I am get to find the 'perfect' caddis green colour, many of the materials seem to bright. I like the colour of the Umqua green net builder but can't find that dubbing material anywhere.

Haven't tied any #10's, mainly stick to the medium-smaller flies.

]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:41:14 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626464&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626464 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Hutt Angler wrote: It's...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626101&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626101 Author: Pole Dancer
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 6:31pm

Hutt Angler wrote:

It's a trigger alright but I'm not sure it always makes the fish move in the right direction.

In my experience I have never seen a refuse, spook or even increased wariness that could have been attributed to a dubbing with reflective qualities without some really imaginative thought processes, but we all have our different experiences.

]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:31:56 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626101&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626101 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : " Many believe this is a...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626089&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626089 Author: Te Awa Kairangi Angler
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Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 6:07pm

" Many believe this is a major trigger for some wary fish"

It's a trigger alright but I'm not sure it always makes the fish move in the right direction.

How has your hunt gone for other dubbings Swine Hunter? This is great detail for a #14. What are your #10s looking like. Got some new photos?

]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:07:26 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=626089&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#626089 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : The point of sparkle in dubbing...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625719&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625719 Author: Pole Dancer
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Posted: 17 Aug 2009 at 10:10pm

The point of sparkle in dubbing is that when it refracts light it gives the appearance, underwater, of movement. Many fly tiers will incorporate a glister or masterbrite type dubbing into a fly not because of any reflective iridescence of the natural but it an attempt to imitate movement. Many believe this is a major trigger for some wary fish.]]> Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:10:12 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625719&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625719 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Thanks for that and it's...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625711&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625711 Author: Te Awa Kairangi Angler
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Posted: 17 Aug 2009 at 10:01pm

Thanks for that and it's obviously doing the business for you.

The Aoteapsyche specimens I’ve seen look quite dingy in colour. Many of the commercial dubbings available are bright and full of glistening fibers. Even black dubbing can shine like coal and the naturals aren’t like that. Hydrobiosis is a brighter green and might be a fatter chap. What do you think? Either way, I know trout wouldn’t turn up their snouts for one over the other and your imitation looks good.

]]> Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:01:18 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625711&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625711 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Sorry about that, changed all...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625398&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625398 Author: Swine Hunter
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Posted: 17 Aug 2009 at 2:18pm

Sorry about that, changed all the permissions on my Flickr photos and it must have dropped off by mistake. I have tied a few more of these and am now aiming for a little less dubbing than the one in the pic, making it a slimmer pattern. Had success with the slimmer flya couple of weekends ago on the upper tongariro - have posted these pics too...

FYI the materials I use are from Steve's flyshop:

Caddis Cream Dubbing: http://www.flyshop.co.nz/product/mottled.html

Grey Ostrich Herl: http://www.flyshop.co.nz/product/ost.html

Scud Back: http://www.flyshop.co.nz/product/bmscud.html

Fly below tied on TMC2457 #14

Haven't tied any caddis pupa emergers, but once I get some time (when work calms down) I'll probably give them a go.

#14 white caddis

and the fish that were fooled the other weekend:

]]> Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:18:36 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625398&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625398 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Hi Swine Hunter, Are you able...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625347&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625347 Author: Te Awa Kairangi Angler
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Posted: 17 Aug 2009 at 12:26pm

Hi Swine Hunter,

Are you able to get the photo of your caddis larvae back up here?

How have your later ties gone and can you post photos of these as well?

What about caddis pupa emergers, are you tying these?

Thanks,

Tim.

]]> Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:26:13 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=625347&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#625347 <![CDATA[Net building caddis pattern : Swine Hunter wrote: And Clark...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42781&PID=606455&title=net-building-caddis-pattern#606455 Author: Pole Dancer
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Posted: 13 Jul 2009 at 10:14am

Swine Hunter wrote:

And Clark yep it's got scud back on the fly - just didn't want to insult Chris by saying so, clearly you're far more comfortable doing it! Tungsten version of the fly is the next thing to tick off the list.

With Chris it's not really a case of insulting, just pointing out his flaws occasionally, something he delightfully does for me in return....

I went easy on him with this one... he was warned about what certain activties might do to his eyesight....

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