The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Rod query https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Fri, 19 Jun 2026 21:08:52 +0000 Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:15:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=137896 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Rod query : This makes a lot of sense.If you...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835168&title=rod-query#1835168 Author: Alan L
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Posted: 19 Oct 2023 at 8:15pm

This makes a lot of sense.
If you exect a rod to take 12kg of drag, then it should not
a, break at 12 kg load  and
b, chaff the line against the blank.
I guess the Q  now is, what do the manufacturers mean when they ut 24kg on a rod.
Alan
]]> Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:15:09 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835168&title=rod-query#1835168 <![CDATA[Rod query : In case anyone is as anal as me...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835166&title=rod-query#1835166 Author: waynorth
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Posted: 19 Oct 2023 at 6:47pm

In case anyone is as anal as me on the subject, I made these up to test my rods at home, and used them instead of scales to set strike on lever drags too.



Line Strike kgs Weights required

1 .33 .33
2 .66 .66
4 1.33 1 + .33
6 2 2
8 2.66 2 + .66
10 3.33 2 + 1 + .33
15 5   3 + 2
24 8 5 + 3
37 12 5 + 3 + 2 + 1 + .66 + .33

Total 6 weights required:     .33    .66    1    2    3    5
]]> Thu, 19 Oct 2023 18:47:50 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835166&title=rod-query#1835166 <![CDATA[Rod query : Right, thanks waynorth. so not...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835165&title=rod-query#1835165 Author: Alan L
Subject: 137896
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 at 6:26pm

Right, thanks waynorth. so not as simle  as it might seem.
Alan
]]> Thu, 19 Oct 2023 18:26:02 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835165&title=rod-query#1835165 <![CDATA[Rod query : Good reply there Waynorth. ]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835164&title=rod-query#1835164 Author: Fish Addict
Subject: 137896
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 at 5:52pm

Good reply there Waynorth. Thumbs Up]]> Thu, 19 Oct 2023 17:52:03 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835164&title=rod-query#1835164 <![CDATA[Rod query : Interesting topic Alan. Until...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835159&title=rod-query#1835159 Author: waynorth
Subject: 137896
Posted: 19 Oct 2023 at 4:58pm

Interesting topic Alan. Until they started rating rods on how heavy a jig they could cast, the agreed interpretation of the rod's rating was, to my understanding, 3 x it's lifting capacity when held at a 45 degree angle with a line through the guides and a weight hanging vertically below the top eye. Max lift is when either the line touches the blank between any 2 guides (common) or the blank locks up & won't bend any further (uncommon, but I have broken 2 rods this way. Better than doing it on a fish I guess.) Not sure how you would test spin rods with the line guides under the blank. 

Frustrated with a couple of purchases, I started checking my existing rods (that's how I broke a couple) and insisting on checking new rods before purchase. Under-rating was rare, but I found many cheaper rods were over rated, and even a few expensive name-brand rods had poorly positioned line guides allowing an earlier touch down than they should.

There are many I've never tested or used, but the only brand that has never failed the test is Offshore Rods (3 rods) all bought back when Leon ran the show - he even did the test on one of them for me himself. Not cheap but worth a look if you're in the market.     
]]> Thu, 19 Oct 2023 16:58:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835159&title=rod-query#1835159 <![CDATA[Rod query : I prefer the 24kgs. I just wonder...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835133&title=rod-query#1835133 Author: Alan L
Subject: 137896
Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 9:33pm

I prefer the 24kgs. I just wonder what they are actually rated to take.  I am summising they must be good for 12kg ie sunset on line rating. If so that is fine by me.
Never usually use sunset on anything , no need. Except on occaisions like a big doggie. Then sunset on 37 kg is barely enuf. 
Alan
]]> Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:33:32 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835133&title=rod-query#1835133 <![CDATA[Rod query : The old school kilwell rods I...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835130&title=rod-query#1835130 Author: krow
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Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 7:57pm

The old school kilwell rods I had were rated to the lift weight I believe. I don't know when that changed. The newer rods are better materials and way thinner. I run all 37kg as IMO the 24kg are too light. ]]> Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:57:50 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835130&title=rod-query#1835130 <![CDATA[Rod query : Sorry no camera in boat. But it...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835129&title=rod-query#1835129 Author: Alan L
Subject: 137896
Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 7:47pm

Sorry  no camera in boat. But it was a big one. Charter guy who lives 2 doors down thought it was a decent striey. He was on the sot when I hooked it. I was drifting!! Took my home made skirt lure .
But I agree,  ballerinas of the ocean. Gave a fantastic aerial dislay.
Alan
]]> Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:47:17 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835129&title=rod-query#1835129 <![CDATA[Rod query : Well done on the sail Alan, did...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835128&title=rod-query#1835128 Author: shaneg
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Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 7:15pm

Well done on the sail Alan, did you get any pics?
They fight really well for weight, very acrobatic and change direction alot.   One best fish to play and catch… shame we don’t get em in NZ waters.
]]> Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:15:15 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835128&title=rod-query#1835128 <![CDATA[Rod query : Yes I get the 8kg drag bit that...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=137896&PID=1835127&title=rod-query#1835127 Author: Alan L
Subject: 137896
Posted: 17 Oct 2023 at 4:55pm

Yes  I get the 8kg drag bit  that is 1/3 at strike. But at sunset you would be at 12kg. So that is really where my Q is heading.
I have always presumed it would therefore be safe to run 12 kg (sunset on a 24 kg rod.
FWIW I run 50Ws on 80lb topshot and hollow dacron. I have generally set my strike drag half way between 24 and 37 kg, ie around 10kg on 24 kg rods. I have some 37 kg rods too and if expecting heavy traffic  eg big dogtooth etc, will always use them in preference. But for general work, prefer the lighter rods. The 37kgs feel a bit like broomsticks.
On the 24 kg rods I don't use sunset - because I would be around 15kg.  But I am assuming the manufacturer would be expecting me to use 12 kg on their 24 kg rod. Am I correct.
Got a big sailfish few days ago, solo. Very cool fish.
Alan
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