The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : The Pipe Again !! https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Sun, 20 Sep 2026 02:33:06 +0000 Thu, 30 May 2019 11:30:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=131044 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : I&#039;ve never fished Rotoma...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754946&title=the-pipe-again#1754946 Author: RC17
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Posted: 30 May 2019 at 11:30am

I've never fished Rotoma much, but nearby the shoreline at Kennedy Bay Lake Rotoehu worth a look with a floating line, or off the boat ramp jetty. Fishing is generally fairly easy there. Further round at Rotoiti anywhere down the Hinehopu shoreline should hold fish in the rain, Ruato Bay also. Okataina main beach also. Good luck!]]> Thu, 30 May 2019 11:30:20 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754946&title=the-pipe-again#1754946 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : I am staying at Rotoma this weekend...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754938&title=the-pipe-again#1754938 Author: HareNcopA
Subject: 131044
Posted: 30 May 2019 at 10:49am

I am staying at Rotoma this weekend - any suggestions on spots I should try?]]> Thu, 30 May 2019 10:49:10 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754938&title=the-pipe-again#1754938 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : Good bit of rain coming through...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754921&title=the-pipe-again#1754921 Author: RC17
Subject: 131044
Posted: 30 May 2019 at 8:05am

Good bit of rain coming through over the next few days, look forward to getting out for a flick at some point on Saturday. Won't bother with the pipe, I would say the regulars have been camped up there from yesterday in anticipation Smile]]> Thu, 30 May 2019 08:05:15 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1754921&title=the-pipe-again#1754921 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : Maybe once upon a time that would...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753922&title=the-pipe-again#1753922 Author: Fenwick1
Subject: 131044
Posted: 19 May 2019 at 8:19am

Maybe once upon a time that would be ok ,but in today's environment you could be asking for trouble ?
As previously stated maybe a sign at these hot spots might remind all of the current rules and ethics of fishing .
No body wants to argue but just to have a fair go at catching a fish.
To much agro in todays world I think
]]> Sun, 19 May 2019 08:19:45 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753922&title=the-pipe-again#1753922 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : If a rod is unattended, why can&#039;t...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753803&title=the-pipe-again#1753803 Author: Fishb8
Subject: 131044
Posted: 17 May 2019 at 8:58pm

If a rod is unattended, why can't you wind it in and put the rod in a safe place?
]]> Fri, 17 May 2019 20:58:40 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753803&title=the-pipe-again#1753803 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : Fish an game issued plenty of...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753751&title=the-pipe-again#1753751 Author: Coochdog
Subject: 131044
Posted: 17 May 2019 at 1:45pm

Fish an game issued plenty of warnings last season for leaving your rod unattended,as well as after hours fishing.The thing with the pipe though is you can see them coming a mile away.]]> Fri, 17 May 2019 13:45:09 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753751&title=the-pipe-again#1753751 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : My apologies...I stand corrected...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753740&title=the-pipe-again#1753740 Author: Kooza
Subject: 131044
Posted: 17 May 2019 at 12:42pm

My apologies...I stand corrected on the set rod regulations. I wonder then, whether F&G have ever tried enforcing these rules?

]]> Fri, 17 May 2019 12:42:03 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753740&title=the-pipe-again#1753740 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : well said .It was my intention...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753712&title=the-pipe-again#1753712 Author: Fenwick1
Subject: 131044
Posted: 17 May 2019 at 8:10am

well said .
It was my intention to get a feel for the thoughts of my fellow anglers .
And hear both sides of the story.
Thanks to everyone .
]]> Fri, 17 May 2019 08:10:48 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753712&title=the-pipe-again#1753712 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : I&#039;m slightly offended by...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753695&title=the-pipe-again#1753695 Author: The Tamure Kid
Subject: 131044
Posted: 16 May 2019 at 10:45pm



[/QUOTE]
I'm slightly offended by this comment...I'm curious to know what you mean by "locals"?  

You also seem to be implying that fishermen and women who employ the heave and leave method, are no better than poachers.

And for those that don't think it qualifies as fly fishing, the current regulations say otherwise...

“fly fishing” means to fish for sports fish with fly rod and fly reel and fly line and artificial fly."

"No licence holder when fishing for sports fish shall: 3.3.4 Be more than 15m from the rod being used."

I agree with Snuffit...it's not my scene, but I also don't feel the need to talk rubbish about those that do.  Maybe next time any of you are at the pipe, stop and have a yarn and a cuppa with whoever's there...you may be pleasantly surprised
[/QUOTE]

With respect, and not wishing to cause further offence, can I suggest you look closely at the Second Schedule regional specific Eastern Region regulations that cover Rotorua lakes (not just the First Schedule which are non-specific general regulations).
In certain situations, such as use of gear and closed seasons, the Second Schedule overrules the non-regional conditions. 

https://fishandgame.org.nz/assets/Uploads/FG-Fishing-Regs-NI-18-19-LR.pdf

The Eastern Region regulations state:

"4.1 No licence holder shall fish for sports fish with a set rod unlesshe or she is fishing from a boat."

Where (in the definitions section) it states: ...“Set rod” means any assembled rod that is not in physical contact witha licence holder when being used to fish for sports fish."

Those shore-based 'regulars' who fish at the Pipe, Ruato etc and wander away from their rods while their lines and lures are in the water are in clear breach of the specific regulations that cover Rotoiti. 

Heave and leave in a stocked fishery where taking is encouraged is okay by me, as long as the angler holds the rod. But I don't like to see people using it with giant egg flies in places such as Otamangakau (Taupo district) - mainly because fish often suck down the "fly" in a fatal way.
I've seen people casting out floating egg/glow bugs on spin gear from jetties at Tarawera and wandering back to their bach deck with a beer!

In terms of a call for some semblance of etiquette, I don't think it's fair that the regulars can claim a spot by staking a claim at 4.45am and never moving all day, or popping back to their camper for a cuppa or whatever and thinking a deck chair and rod left on the scene means their 'possession' is maintained. Sad if they think that is acceptable. 

Also, while Flyfisher can clarify his comment himself, I'm pretty sure his mention of poachers referring to the numerous reported cases of local people prosecuted for poaching using nets, spears etc on spawning tributaries in the area - not any inference about heave and leave. 

I believe it's good to have a robust discussion on issues such as those described by the original poster.


]]> Thu, 16 May 2019 22:45:02 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753695&title=the-pipe-again#1753695 <![CDATA[The Pipe Again !! : What’s heave and leave? Casting...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753675&title=the-pipe-again#1753675 Author: Coochdog
Subject: 131044
Posted: 16 May 2019 at 8:14pm

[QUOTE=MightyBoosh] What’s heave and leave? Casting a booby out on a sinking line and leaving it?

Yep thats it either a Booby or Globug or both.Seldom left mostly slowly retreived.When i say slow im talking 5mins between casts hence where the seats come in to it.

Works so well IMO because you are not disturbing the shallow waters as much as you would with a floater,The area fished gets a rest between casts.
The fly is also staying in the zone alot longer and pisses off the fish enough to hopefully take a swipe.]]> Thu, 16 May 2019 20:14:57 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131044&PID=1753675&title=the-pipe-again#1753675