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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K : Plus the 2008 model was not without...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Oct 2017 at 2:20am<br /><br />Plus the 2008 model was not without its issues early on........they had to recall a lot of them because of the ****ty bailroller........a white dot/silver dot placed on box.......and it wasnt just a case of changing the roller.....there was another amendment made to the arm which i am sure nomis would know about..........as is common with a lot of things in life........they put out what they think is a perfect product...early days there is an issue.......then its fixed and it becomes brilliant.......happens with most **** eg cars/motorbikes ......**** ....even planes !....can have issues early on after being released.......Its good to hear a lot of peoples opionions without people getting rude if you disagree.......Very interesting to hear nomis thoughts(someone who digests them).<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; My main motive for my suggestion to the original poster was "COST"......he did say he didnt want to spend too much....if i remember rightly..........the 2008 version can still be found in mint condition...because many people use them for one trip or few and they are stored away.......so...still a class act......but when will be the next stella range i wonder?...or are they happy with where they are for now?</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K :   Nomis wrote:Epic charters original...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2017 at 1:40pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nomis" alt="Originally posted by Nomis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nomis wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br><br><div>Epic charters original 2013 model reels are still going strong. And get thrashed daily.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The 08 stella was an awesome reel and under stand why people rate it so highly but in terms of better.... i disagree.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Agree 100% Nomis, just to kind of touch on the above re charters or reels getting a lot of use etc. If i was to think back to any if the overseas trips i've fished in the last few years the make up of reels used for topwater and spin jigging between all the guys has generally been 90-95% 13'Stella SW's. With the remaining 5-10% being a mix of saltiga, catalina, twin power, saragosa, 08'stella. To be clear most of these guys, and myself included have either used or owned/ still own 08' stellas. <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K :  Laidbackdood - I never said...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2017 at 1:21pm<br /><br />Laidbackdood - <br>I never said one 'needs'the extra line capacity of the14k vs say a 08' 8k or 10k. I even said previously imo i think 250mtrs isenough for kings and GT's on topwater. If fishing for large tuna however iwould want more capacity.<br><br>You were one of a couple of posters who previously suggested OP shouldbuy a used 08'stella 10k and put an aftermarket spool on it. My statement waswhy would one do that when you can buy a 14k that's perfect fortopwater with similar line capacity off the shelf.<br>Aftermarket spools are also going to increase the total price which imo makes the brand new reel look more and more appealing for a couple of hundred more $$$.<br>....and yes i generally tend to service/maintain my own reels.<br><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K : Im going to avoid quoting anyone...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71503">Nomis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2017 at 9:13am<br /><br />Im going to avoid quoting anyone here..<div><br></div><div>The 2013 stella is a better reel than the 08 for a nuemerous amount of reasons.</div><div>main one being it is sealed. Sealed spool and drag system, sealed anti reverse, sealed body and gear box, sealed side plates. sealed worm drive, Sealed handle knob, Sealed handle shaft, Sealed main shaft.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>That above already puts it ahead of the 08 Stella. And I have personally stripped several hundred of the current model Stella and more of the 08 Stella. Can confidently say that the new model is the superior reel. Epic charters original 2013 model reels are still going strong. And get thrashed daily.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The 08 stella was an awesome reel and under stand why people rate it so highly but in terms of better.... i disagree.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K :   Fishy11 wrote:   laidbackdood...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2017 at 6:12am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Fishy11" alt="Originally posted by Fishy11" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Fishy11 wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by laidbackdood" alt="Originally posted by laidbackdood" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>laidbackdood wrote:</strong><br /><br />The fact is....that the 2008 line up have a lot of loyal fans who prefer it to the SWB newer model....Alan Hawk (GOD)......for one.....who found issues with the new model....Parts are still well stocked for the 2008 model and it remains the best stella to date.<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I have the 5000/6000/8000/10000/18000......2008 models.......I wont be buying any SWB.......they are ****ing ugly as well<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div>Have a read of Alan Hawk"s review of the 2008 stella and then the new model swb........he knows his ****.......its pretty heavy reading......skip to the conclusion if you want it spelt out easy.<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div><div><br></div><div>http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/reviews.html<br></div></td></tr></table><br><br>That's nice, good for you. I never said the 08's aren't a good reel, they are. You're the one bagging on something based on subjective b.s and not facts though.<br> "he found issues", really care to enlighten everyone else or are you just content with spreading more hearsay and not actually posting anything of substance. <br>I've read a number of Alans reviews / breakdowns including both of the ones you mentioned. He does know his stuff, well most of the time, this is the same guy though who once said something along the lines of that the twin power is just a fancy saragosa with it's gearing etc being pretty much the same - which is completely false, the twin power shares more in common with the current model stella in regards to it's gearing setup etc than the saragosa. Not saying he doesn't make some very valid points in some of his reviews but i take those types of comments with a grain of salt.<br><br><br></td></tr></table><div>haha.....no substance?......well ...obviously you are a much wiser man then? .....Do you service them? or are you just a mere fisho like the rest of us on here?......sorry bro but i respect what he says far more than what you say......another poster states they have addressed these problems........no doubt they took note of what mr hawke had to say......if thats the case .....thats good to hear<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />........I have never had any problems with the line capacity or having to buy after market spools(except the jm spool).......the 10,000 spool is fine for kings and has ample enough line capacity to deal to kings....its only paranoia that makes people get larger spools for kings (overkill)......the 20,000 spool can fit on the 18,000.....the sw 10,000 spool is a great kingy reel and the 18,000 is a great kingy/gt reel or marlin reel....I think its up to the poster which he prefers.......the review by mr hawke should be of great interest to him......there is one arguement you will never win........the new stella is ****ing expensive and second hand SW stellas in great condition have become far more affordable....all my stellas are second hand......have never bought one new.....i aint paying 1200/1300 plus out for a new stella thank you<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" />.......i will leave that to the rich.<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />....fishy maybe now you can see why there is still a demand for these "outdated reels" as you seem to think they are.....quality never fades........They have now become a bargain if you can find a tidy one !...a reel that was once worth 1100+ can be picked up for 500/600/700/800.....Do the maths.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K :   jac23 wrote:This is testament...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Oct 2017 at 8:41pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jac23" alt="Originally posted by jac23" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jac23 wrote:</strong><br /><br />This is testament to the 13' Stella<br><br>https://youtu.be/hvta9DyoQ-I</td></tr></table><br><br>If you only knew the irony of a Saltywater Tackle vid being posted after what's been said in this thread<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K : This is testament to the 13&amp;#039;...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=82877">jac</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Oct 2017 at 6:18pm<br /><br />This is testament to the 13' Stella<br /><br />https://youtu.be/hvta9DyoQ-I]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K : Exactly my thoughts Stonefish....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Oct 2017 at 2:56pm<br /><br />Exactly my thoughts Stonefish. <br>You know why Laidbackdood fails to mention that because it doesn't suit his narrative, simple as that. Not trying to be a d**k that's just the way i see it.<br>Completely agree with the 14k v 18k comment, i don't know why one would buy a 10yr old second hand 8k, 10k and then have to get aftermarket spools to try and make it a decent topwater reel. The 14k stellas and twinpowers are made with topwater in mind, as are the 18k stellas.<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K : If you&amp;#039;re quoting Alan Hawk...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=63383">Stonefish</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Oct 2017 at 2:44pm<br /><br />If you're quoting Alan Hawk then surely you need to point out that he acknowledges that Shimano apparently fixed the most of the issues that he found on his initial review, and that the 2013 Stella is number 2 on his "Finest Offshore Spinning reel" list. (Okuma Makaira number 1????)<br /><br />I honestly think some people over complicate things, if you want a great topwater reel with quick retrieve and a size that you can cast all day then get the 14k. If you're really concerned about getting spooled and think that the extra 100m or so capacity will help you stop a fish than for some reason the massive drag won't, then go for the 18k.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Stella 14K vs 18K :   saffayakker wrote:Buy a 10...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 125764<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Oct 2017 at 2:18pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by saffayakker" alt="Originally posted by saffayakker" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>saffayakker wrote:</strong><br /><br />Buy a 10 000 Twin Power and get another spool for less than a $1000. Can even fill up 1 spool for that money.</td></tr></table><br>I'd agree the twin power is a good option if OP - David want's to spend a bit less than stella money. Would it not make more sense though to buy a 14,000 twin power? usually the same or similar price to the 10,000, same body &amp; weight. Better gear ratio for topwater and more line capacity from the get go.<br>]]>
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