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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : Hi captain Gav if you want my...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=94991">kingfish15</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 Apr 2017 at 3:33am<br /><br />Hi captain Gav if you want my pot of advice i reckon you run barbless mustad inline hooks as i reckon there is very little difference between treble and inline hooks. Inine hooks give a better lure action as they are more streamline with the lure.<div>Cheers&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : What model number inline singles...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=88926">Polar_Kiwis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Apr 2017 at 11:52pm<br /><br />What model number inline singles do you use for 150-200mm poppers for GT fishing? <br />Also what brand Kevlar assist hooks have you tried on poppers?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : N=1Caught my first Kingie on my...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=78605">muchalls</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 6:55pm<br /><br />N=1<br />Caught my first Kingie on my seldom used stickbait set a week ago.<br />Singles. <br />No opinion, just stoked with Kingie fever 🤒 <br />Cleanly hooked in the side of the mouth.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : If you do use trebles ...get yourself...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 5:04pm<br /><br />If you do use trebles ...get yourself some of these .....they are just brilliant.....<div>The picture here shows the top lure with Gamakatsu GT recorder 6/0 barbless trebles on it....unfortunately they dont fit that well in these caps....points protrude.</div><div>The lower aswb fits perfectly with 5/0 on.......This is the XXL version of owner treble caps and will fit 2/0 to 5/0 very nicely.........they are free draining and lock into place...be careful removing them or they will get you !... pull back and off to the side to release....not straight back<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" />..........just remember to take them off before you cast...The bright colour should help<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div><img src="uploads/67244/IMG_8257.JPG" height="375" width="500" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : Yeah i wasn&amp;#039;t impying you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 4:51pm<br /><br />Yeah i wasn't impying you were Muppet, just said it because based on past experience i know some on here can take someone saying "ive done this, or ive done that" as sort of gloating etc<br><br>I agree singles are a viable option in a lot of cases, hence why i said both singles and trebles work in my first post to captain Gav. For instance probably two thirds of my lures i use singles on at the moment, the rest trebles or a combination of both.<br><br>Just a lot of myths and misleading info out there is all i was getting at, not only in this section either but i think this, and maybe the jigging section are the worst for it at times.<br>The amount of times i've seen/heard/read people trying to over complicate things telling people they need to run some silly 15cm long knot to tie their jig on to catch a fish, or saying that they were running a 'locked drag'<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> anytime i hear that b.s term i cringe<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley26.gif" border="0" alt="Pinch" title="Pinch" /><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : No one is calling you a know it...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52212">Muppet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 4:09pm<br /><br />No one is calling you a know it all Fishy least of all me.<div><br></div><div>The question was asked and I think its fair to say single hooks are a viable option. I would also say there are times when the Kingie bite on topwater lures is so good you could probably get away with a single hook on the back of the lure only. I don't know much about lures but I know Kingfish and when they are biting stupid you can change it up. And on the other side there might be a day when you only get one bite and wish you had trebles&nbsp;<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? :   Muppet wrote:Fair point about...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=90735">Fishy11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 1:51pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Muppet" alt="Originally posted by Muppet" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Muppet wrote:</strong><br /><br />Fair point about my experience.<div><br></div><div>But I see you don't say anything about the amount of damage trebles can do to a fish around the gill plate area which is undeniably true and not a blind opinion. The few times I have used stickbaits with trebles I have hooked the kings/kahawai in mouth as well as top of head / eyes / soft throat area. That was just with light gear. And obviously can hurt anglers / deckhands hence a lot of charters ban them.</div><div><br></div><div>I have had this conversation before about topwater lures with trebles with some really good fisho's and I think it is worth thinking about when buying lures that will work better with singles. &nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>I didn't want to type a whole page re trebles vs singles hence why i didn't go into more detail regarding the damage hooks do. As i had said to captain Gav. this topic is a never ending one.<br><br>Both singles and trebles can inflict decent damage to a fish with either the tail or belly hooks. The wounds from trebles if any are generally shallow due to the smaller gape of the treble v single on the same lure. I've seen both do decent damage, as was mentioned by laidbackdood, when a fish completely engulfs a lure with trebles that's when they can be a real pain. Then again i've seen an owner jobu single go clean through a 20kg GT's head, fish was stuffed so there you go. Best thing you can do with either as others have mentioned is crush the barbs, or run barbless. <br><br>All i was getting at with the experience thing is that i'm going off actual experience from topwater fishing for kings here and fishing overseas with some of the most accomplished topwater anglers and guides in the world for GT's, Dogtooth Tuna, YFT, Coral trout etc etc<br><br>***As i said previously i'm not trying to be a 'know it all' or be like i'm all that. Am just letting you know what i am basing my opinion on***<br><br>Last overseas trip i did was in December to PNG, 9 of us from all around the world, 6 full days fishing. Hundreds of fish caught probably 90%topwater 10% jigging and didn't have a single fish that i know of badly wounded from trebles or singles.<br>Not saying it doesn't happen, but i've caught a decent amount of fish on topwater and it's a fairly rare occurrence.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : Go barbless whatever hooks you...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=86237">DenimViper</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 9:50am<br /><br />Go barbless whatever hooks you use , singles or trebbles. If you keep enough tension on the line 9/10 times it will stick. I noticed how much damage trebbles actually do to the lure, it might only be cosmetic but still. Especially om likes of &nbsp;Shimano Orcas / Head Dip / Rocket Dive. Carpenter can take a good beating&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? :   captain.Gav. wrote:Again Great...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 9:17am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by captain.Gav." alt="Originally posted by captain.Gav." style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>captain.Gav. wrote:</strong><br /><br />Again Great info given here by all, thanks Laidback and others.<div>I will be running a carpenter gamma as my main lure so the info that trebles work better on that type of lure was great thanks.</div><div>Will also be trialing some new stickbaits from Japan that my mate has sourced, slightly less weight but look good.</div><div>Cheers, Gav.</div></td></tr></table><div>Its very important the lures have the right size hooks and rings Gav.......worst thing you can do is weigh the lure down .....it will ruin the action.......the right &nbsp;weight leader is also important too.....for the same reason<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[INLINE or TREBLE HOOKS FOR STICKBAITS ? : Some interesting Leans on this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 123030<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2017 at 8:40am<br /><br />Some interesting Leans on this subject..........I can think of quite a few lures that are coming pre rigged with singles now.........shimano spouter......river to sea killer vibes.....Nomad chug norris......Nomad stickbaits.....I think thats good for the sport....that the lures have been tested and designed for use with the inline singles.<div>An easy option with trebles is to crush them and thats it.....thats what a lot of GT fisherman do with singles amd trebles.........If you fancy crushing the barbs and then filing it down smooth....you could do that but i dont because i find it encourages corrosion. ...plus even the crushed barb sticks to a certain degree........you cant beat machined barbless hooks for easy slide out.</div><div>One of my mates on here used to fish barbless trebles on his carpenters off the rocks......when the fish was "ready to land" so to speak.........he used to bounce the lure up and down at his feet(vertically) to release the fish....fish was never lifted from the water and as long as it was hooked normally in the mouth......that worked every time for him.....he was using 5/0 6/0 barbless owner st66....he just shook the lure off the king.</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Thats why i buy new barbless ones...........Like fishy says......they do come out easy......Its very important to keep a tight line or you are likley to have the hooks spat with barbless hooks.......Muppet has a point with the spare treble getting into horrible places.....usually the tail hook...as kings go for the head region i reckon.........but they shouldnt get into the gills in a hurry(gill plate protection) and anglers have been fishing for GT's for trebles &nbsp;for years...Gts have huge gobs on em........big kings too..........Personally i dont think thats the biggest issue with trebles mullet........The biggest issue is when the fish engulfs the lure down its gob and those trebles get stuck in the roof off the mouth etc......they can be a right prik trying to remove them(Even worse with Barbs).....and thats where a single really wins the arguement........Bigger trebles would lower that risk i guess........I think there are two shames....</div><div>1.....people pay a lot of money to buy carpenter lures ......yet they only swim well with trebles.</div><div>2....Then you are not allowed to use them at prime spots because the skipper says so.......and you are paying them a lot of money to go there.</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I really feel you should be given the option of single hooks or barbless trebles only.....They are not commonly promoted in my eyes......They slide out like that needle that took your last blood test or a bayonet !....Plus they encourage you to keep a tight line on the fish or you lose it........an important skill because you can lose fish with even a barbed hook.....from giving slack line.<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div><div>Given a choice.....I am leaning towards inline single lures .....mainly because of freedom to use anywhere....more than anything else........I dont see them as kinder to fish at all.....Not at all.......Imagine carrying around a 220mm 120/140 &nbsp;gram lure hangin out ur gob !......how you going to eat then ?...That barbed single could be hangin around for sometime...whereas the barbless dood would work free in a short time frame imho........otherwise that mean arse fish that gave you the thrill of your life for 5 mins and dealt to you......doesnt get released to fight another day......he dies from the lure that you tempted him with<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley13.gif" border="0" alt="Disapprove" title="Disapprove" /></div><div>If deckies use lip grippers and can remove most hooks whilst the kings head is up in the water.....there is little danger to them.</div><div>Plenty of skips use that method successfully.....I have seen them.</div>]]>
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