The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Which Stickbait Rod? https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Thu, 04 Jun 2026 23:26:55 +0000 Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:24:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=121978 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Structfab wrote:a Smith GTK...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1665029&title=which-stickbait-rod#1665029 Author: laidbackdood
Subject: 121978
Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 2:24am

Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

a Smith GTK would be a nice match for a 5000 Stella

Awesome.....I own this set.Wink....Perfect for the boat.
]]> Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:24:33 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1665029&title=which-stickbait-rod#1665029 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Structfab wrote: Daniel...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664994&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664994 Author: Daniel K
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 6:46pm

Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

Originally posted by Daniel K Daniel K wrote:

Is it the drag? I've noticed that on a lot of stickbait rods, the drag ratings are set quite low. Is that the reason why everyone using 8000 plus? 
it's a combination of things really...drag, capacity and retrieve rate. The smaller reels have shorter retrieve rates, where as the bigger spooled / high ratio reels have alot larger retrieve rates, which makes it alot easier working a lure, and less fatigue for prolonged periods of casting / retreiving. Capacity isn't such a major concern off the bricks, as you'll get dusted pretty quick if you can't stop it, but that's where the extra drag comes in. Alot of rod drag ratings are very conservative, and remember reel max drag ratings are when spool is close to empty, so you won't get that sort of drag out of them with a full spool. I was using a 6000 Biomaster the other day on kings around the 650 - 800 mm size, which was perfect really. If they were bigger, or closer to structure I would have opted for my heavier reels. 5000 is fine off a boat, but pretty small for off the bricks IMO, that's purely based on drag, as you're less likely to be casting all day off the bricks, as you have to wait for the fish to come to you.

Oh right I see. Retrieve rates plus greater capacity = more capability to tackle bigger fish and swim baits better. Thanks a lot for that info. It didn't occur to me to think about retrieve rates in terms of stickbaits for some reason. I run a trinidad and one of the reasons why i got that was because of the retrieve rate and the amount of line I could store on it, so I completely understand where you're coming from. I'm going to be fishing primarily from sandy beaches and the like so I'm hoping that I might be able to squeeze through. 
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 18:46:55 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664994&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664994 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Structfab wrote:it&#039;s a...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664956&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664956 Author: DenimViper
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 1:21pm

Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

it's a combination of things really...drag, capacity and retrieve rate. The smaller reels have shorter retrieve rates, where as the bigger spooled / high ratio reels have alot larger retrieve rates, which makes it alot easier working a lure, and less fatigue for prolonged periods of casting / retreiving. Capacity isn't such a major concern off the bricks, as you'll get dusted pretty quick if you can't stop it, but that's where the extra drag comes in. Alot of rod drag ratings are very conservative, and remember reel max drag ratings are when spool is close to empty, so you won't get that sort of drag out of them with a full spool. I was using a 6000 Biomaster the other day on kings around the 650 - 800 mm size, which was perfect really. If they were bigger, or closer to structure I would have opted for my heavier reels. 5000 is fine off a boat, but pretty small for off the bricks IMO, that's purely based on drag, as you're less likely to be casting all day off the bricks, as you have to wait for the fish to come to you.

x2
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 13:21:42 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664956&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664956 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : this too would be a good match...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664950&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664950 Author: Structfab
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 12:32pm

this too would be a good match for a 5000:
http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/synit-bay-caster-pe3_topic121907.html
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 12:32:40 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664950&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664950 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : a Smith GTK would be a nice match...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664949&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664949 Author: Structfab
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 12:28pm

a Smith GTK would be a nice match for a 5000 Stella

]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 12:28:48 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664949&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664949 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Daniel K wrote:Is it the drag?...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664948&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664948 Author: Structfab
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 12:26pm

Originally posted by Daniel K Daniel K wrote:

Is it the drag? I've noticed that on a lot of stickbait rods, the drag ratings are set quite low. Is that the reason why everyone using 8000 plus? 
it's a combination of things really...drag, capacity and retrieve rate. The smaller reels have shorter retrieve rates, where as the bigger spooled / high ratio reels have alot larger retrieve rates, which makes it alot easier working a lure, and less fatigue for prolonged periods of casting / retreiving. Capacity isn't such a major concern off the bricks, as you'll get dusted pretty quick if you can't stop it, but that's where the extra drag comes in. Alot of rod drag ratings are very conservative, and remember reel max drag ratings are when spool is close to empty, so you won't get that sort of drag out of them with a full spool. I was using a 6000 Biomaster the other day on kings around the 650 - 800 mm size, which was perfect really. If they were bigger, or closer to structure I would have opted for my heavier reels. 5000 is fine off a boat, but pretty small for off the bricks IMO, that's purely based on drag, as you're less likely to be casting all day off the bricks, as you have to wait for the fish to come to you.
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 12:26:25 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664948&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664948 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : I think it&#039;s because of:*Drag...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664947&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664947 Author: The Tamure Kid
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 12:26pm

I think it's because of:
*Drag to cope with pound-for-pound one of the most powerful fish in the sea
* line capacity of 50lb plus braid, often more in some situations where big kingies are likely or the surroundings require stopping fish before they go into foul territory
* retrieval rate - bigger spool usually = more line per turn of the handle

I am mostly going to fish in sandy open harbour estuaries etc where stopping the fish isn't as critical and 15kg+ kingies aren't likely, so my set up described above is adequate.
But I have an 8000 set up for fishing further out from a boat, and I wouldn't want to have that if I was fishing in some of the renowned kingie spots around the country.
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 12:26:05 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664947&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664947 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Is it the drag? I&#039;ve noticed...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664941&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664941 Author: Daniel K
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 12:01pm

Is it the drag? I've noticed that on a lot of stickbait rods, the drag ratings are set quite low. Is that the reason why everyone using 8000 plus? ]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 12:01:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664941&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664941 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : get a synit ]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664925&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664925 Author: home bouy
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 9:43am

get a synit
]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:43:01 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664925&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664925 <![CDATA[Which Stickbait Rod? : Yeah the 5000 is a bit small but...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664916&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664916 Author: Daniel K
Subject: 121978
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 8:48am

Yeah the 5000 is a bit small but it's the only one i've got at the moment. I've seen guys using bigger reels and I was wondering why that was? I've caught kings up to 20kgs on my tiny little Abu Baitcaster attached to my fly rod (i know its stupid), and up to 25kgs on my poo 100 year old Penn spin reel. I was hoping that a 5000sw would be enough? ]]> Wed, 09 Nov 2016 08:48:44 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=121978&PID=1664916&title=which-stickbait-rod#1664916