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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : Cheers Zac,Something i have been...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=47958">corokid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Mar 2016 at 10:02pm<br /><br />Cheers Zac,<div>Something i have been thinking about , seems a silly question as i feel i am probably missing something.</div><div>If we use rubber bands , why do you need clips ?? Why not just overhand knot a loop in the halyard and rubber band from there<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" />&nbsp;Use a different size rubber band to suit your release pressure required.</div><div><br></div><div>Ah just re read your post about bending bases , not poles as what i thought i read. Too easy , cheers mate. It will space the poles out from the hardtop for travelling position but can easily sort that , more important to get trolling position correct .</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. :  just run rubber bands until...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=83230">ELEVAR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Mar 2016 at 9:49pm<br /><br />just run rubber bands until your happy as to where you want to put Dacron loops, and or find new rods, putting corners in the riggers has to be the best thing I did to my boat I think, 2 thirds the way up the pole, new boat runs same riggers but mounted in rocket launcher so they are very high so I needed to run tag lines, that was easy enough tho and seems fine to use.<div>btw... you can bend the killwell bases prity easy</div><div>zac</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : Fair call MATTOO,Just been planning...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=47958">corokid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Mar 2016 at 9:34pm<br /><br />Fair call MATTOO,<div>Just been planning the next mission with a work colleague , only problem we stuck at sea for 3 weeks so will be early April. Going to keep it simple for now and just run 4 lures , 2 corners and 2 riggers. Sort of thinking of winter projects for next season.&nbsp;</div><div>So will rely on fishing reports and adventures on here to avoid going cold turkey.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : Hi Coro,My two pence worth.This...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=77187">MATTOO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Mar 2016 at 9:10pm<br /><br />Hi Coro,<br />My two pence worth.<br />This experience requires experience.<br />ie; time trialling and testing.<br />For me it's that part of the learning that is enjoyable.<br /><br />I'm at the point that for me i I run both my riggers off my stiff kilwells, but get better action from my corners off my stern rod holders.<br />I use roller trollers on my riggers which gives me fast and easy adjustment for my riggers.<br />Do not like tag lines.<br />I resolved this by above and swept back riggers.<br />Works for me.<br />I like simplicity.<br />With time you will understand how your stuff works.<br />Ideas , processes, techniques and hard and fast rules, guidelines are all well and good.<br />But they are only basis or start points for you develop your u der standing and practical experience.<br /><br />Time on the water is the only short cut.<br />Good luck and keep asking.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : Been a great read this , some...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=47958">corokid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Mar 2016 at 8:29pm<br /><br />Been a great read this , some good oil and healthy debate.<div>Fairly new to this but have recently fitted some stiff 12ft killwell riggers to side of hardtop on "White Knight"</div><div>The 3 position chatfeild killwell bases combined with hardtop that slopes inward slightly has resulted in less than ideal angle , the 45 degree (trolling ) position effectively about 50 to 55 degrees from water , high is good I understand that , but comes at cost of reduced spread . Anyway , right or wrong this has been sorted a bit by running poles in flat position with halyards wrapped around outer tubes of rocket launcher which is higher that mounts , this has flexed the poles up to a reasonable height at the ends with the added bonus of stiffening the rig , so from front on looks like a cowboy hat coming towards you<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div>Well that's the set up for now , may have to wedge mounts about 5 to 10 degrees to fix properly but it seems to work . Have read a bit about the outrigger lures usually being more effective than off the transom on trailer boat due to the lures in the wash . So was thinking run a second set of halyards about half way up pole . Presently have roller troller release clips , for the second set up I already have aft goldfinger release clips as purchased a while ago, the type with swivel attachment at either end to suit this purpose. The aftco clip instructions say wrap line around 5 or 6 times with final loop to lock position I think. Or alternatively just run straight through clip which allows adjustment of lure which would suit me initially whilst I am experimenting with all my lure positions . Don't really want to run sliding dacron loop system just yet as my rod roller tips seem a bit small for this. Guess the main question is what do you think , any advise , I am a little concerned these clips are more suited to attaching with loops , might cause some chaffing of line with no roller?</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : Thanks Peter. Already onto that....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=77187">MATTOO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Mar 2016 at 11:22am<br /><br />Thanks Peter. Already onto that. Courtesy of yourself in recent posts or articles, can't remember which.<br />Have been taking particular note on that point to eye for fulcrum.<br />Very salient point that.<br />For those who take note of this idea, it is quite possible that Gregg from Go Fish will be bringing in some high quality Japanese s/s hooks that have a gape and point that disect beautifully the fulcrum principle that Peter describes.<br />I have viewed these hooks and they are ideal for this, let alone being a very good looking hook for game fishing.<br />There not cheap, nothing jap is, but quality is up there.<br />I will get a pic of these from Gregg and post it some time.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2016 11:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. :   mangre 2 wrote:get some wooden...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=65573">Jiggy Jig</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Mar 2016 at 11:17am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mangre 2" alt="Originally posted by mangre 2" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mangre 2 wrote:</strong><br /><br />get some wooden pegs, and a lambs tail docking ring, you will need a tool to open the rubber ring to place over the peg, wrap your line 4 times around a rolled up paper, make sure its tightly rolled, <br><br>open the peg and put&nbsp; the paper&nbsp; in, you will get a clean hook up, takes a lot of weight to pull the line from the peg.&nbsp;&nbsp; paper wont stretch.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Have you got a photo of this set up please?&nbsp;<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />&nbsp;JJ</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2016 11:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. :  Matto there&amp;#039;s been a bit...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=45728">Peter Pakula</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Mar 2016 at 10:34am<br /><br />Matto there's been a bit of a change in sharpening. Yes points need to be sharp, but they don't need to be long.<div><br>Also the direction of the point has changed. Traditionally the point was sharpened parallel to the shank or in the direction the point was pointing and pretty much cantered. This has changed to aiming the point at the direction of where the force is coming from which is generally the eye of the hook. <br><br>To get the hook to pivot or did into the jaw and not slice across the fish we no longer sharpen or even touch the underside (barb side) of the point.<br><br>Barbs are still reduced.<br><br><img src="uploads/45728/point.jpg" height="143" width="500" border="0" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2016 10:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : The question is interesting Kevin.I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=77187">MATTOO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Mar 2016 at 10:16am<br /><br />The question is interesting Kevin.<br />I have run them in as many configurations as I can.<br />Singles, doubles, and all the degrees there abouts. On lures from small to very large.<br />Not enough fish in yet to know.<br /><br />I think the most important point about small gauge, bonze, dojo or others. Is as I have proposed before.<br />Is penetration by an extremely narrow sharp point.<br /><br />So as with any gauge hooks, extremely sharp hooks are a very important key and only one as others point out in the whole myriad of things that make any system work.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Outrigger set up for lures. : So after reading this thread I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=80162">Kevin.S</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 116384<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Mar 2016 at 9:58am<br /><br />So after reading this thread I decided to look into what all the fuss about these light gauge hooks was and watched the videos on the Bonze site. &nbsp;I understand it needs to be viewed as a whole system, not just chucking these hooks on anything. &nbsp;One question I have though, what size of lure are these hooks actually suitable to be used on? &nbsp;The video seemed to rush over this without giving an actual size, just said "smaller than usual". &nbsp;200mm long, 250, 300???]]>
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