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The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Mackerel besides Jap https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:06:53 +0000 Fri, 23 Feb 2024 12:17:44 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=115929 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Good thread resurrection. FishMan's...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1837338&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1837338 Author: MB
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 12:17pm

Good thread resurrection. FishMan's post are always valuable. Nice to read something from someone who knows what they are talking about rather than the bull**** on Facebook.

Jack mackerel (yellowtail horse mackerel) aren't true mackerels. They are scads or "horse mackerels". More closely related to trevally than mackerels. Considered inedible in some countries, loved in others!

]]> Fri, 23 Feb 2024 12:17:44 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1837338&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1837338 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : More tropical fish are arriving...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1837320&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1837320 Author: 064pointbreak
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Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 1:55pm

More tropical fish are arriving in New Zealand due to global warming.
This includes giant manta rays, spearfish and whale sharks. But if Spanish Mackerel are on the list, it might change the New Zealand gamefishing world due to their sharp teeth! We might see wire traces, unrigged or prerigged in the gamefishing section in the tackle stores]]> Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:55:51 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1837320&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1837320 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Haven't seen those Chilean...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621534&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621534 Author: Fishb8
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Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 6:14am

Haven't seen those Chilean mackerel for about 10 years.

Mackerel make up 56% of NZ's fish exports and much goes to middle east.
]]> Fri, 19 Feb 2016 06:14:40 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621534&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621534 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Hi Tortise01NZJack mackerelCommercial...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621529&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621529 Author: Lethal
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Posted: 19 Feb 2016 at 3:19am

Hi Tortise01

NZ Jack mackerel Commercial catch on average 60,000 Tonne, made up of 3 species we hardly see near the shore.

these are really CHILEAN JACK MACKEREL
yes they used to come down the East coast in their 10s of millions,
Schools out from the 3Kings used to stretch out 10miles or more, god now how wide but the day we had them around us on a flat calm day we had drifted all night and could not see land in any direction yet we had miles of these huge jack mackerel 60cm around us with no gaps just solid fish till we neared the Kings again, then we hook marlin at that point,

other names "Greenback" "Horse Mackerel" Trachurus declivis:

The Peruvian jack horse mackerel or Southern jack mackerel (Trachurus murphyi ) is almost identical in appearance to the Greenback horse mackerel (T. declivis )

Assie also catch these fish with that massive Com boat which the Rec boys are fighting tooth and nail to stop plundering these Mackerel,

so what is the point?
all the above mackerel really mean very little to us, we very rarely catch them nowadays anyway,
the ones below is what we mainly catch on our sabiki rigs for catching bigger fish, with a few larger ones thrown in.
so keep calling these Yellowtail Mackerel or Jack Mackerel like most Kiwis do then everyone will know what your talking about, yes there is a heap of confusion out there.

]]> Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:19:15 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621529&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621529 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Jaapie wrote:Great info Craig.Spot...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621272&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621272 Author: Tortise01
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Posted: 18 Feb 2016 at 6:08pm

Jaapie wrote:

Great info Craig. Thumbs Up

Hey Jaapie.
"Cuda" is what All the Durban fisherman affectionately call the Narrow Barred Mackerel. To digress, only confusion is to spell it "Cuda" or "Cuta". I have never seen it spelled "Couta" although the prinounciation is as you have spelled it.

The word in way way refers to a Barracuda what so ever and as you correctly state, that is a completely different topic.

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Posted: 18 Feb 2016 at 5:42pm

Does the Mako count as a Mackerel member :D ]]> Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:42:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621267&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621267 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : macka2012 wrote: herby wrote:Photos...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621256&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621256 Author: Fishb8
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Posted: 18 Feb 2016 at 4:24pm

macka2012 wrote:

herby wrote:

Photos macka? I'd bet you caught slimy macks, not spanish

Blue mackerel are great to eat. Juveniles are caught amongst schools of Jack mackerel.
Frigate mackerel are caught at times on skippy lures. They look very similar to skippies but have a similar pattern as blue mackerel.
]]> Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:24:03 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1621256&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1621256 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Thanks Craig! ]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1620915&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1620915 Author: smudge
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Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 10:48pm

Thanks Craig!
]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:48:37 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1620915&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1620915 <![CDATA[Mackerel besides Jap : Great info Craig.Spot on.In South...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115929&PID=1620725&title=mackerel-besides-jap#1620725 Author: Jaapie
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Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 11:06am

Great info Craig. Thumbs Up

Spot on.

In South Africa the 'Couta (not Cuda) as per original post is the same species as the Aussie Spaniard or narrow barred mackerel - Scomberomerus Commersoni
In Mozambique and parts of Asia it's also called Tanguigue.

The Cuda, Barracouta, Barracuda opens up a whole new can of worms totally unrelated to the mackerel thread.

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Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 6:02am

The great confusion comes from the word 'mackerel' being used a lot in different fish names, sometimes for completely unrelated fish. Thus:

Slimy mackerel are part of the tuna family (Scombridae) but are completed unrelated to jack mackerel (trevally/kingfish family - Carangidae).

Both are small species that never get much longer than 60cms, and while the slimy mackerel is related to the completely foreign Spanish mackerel by being in the same family (Scombridae) it is not in the same genus (Scomberomorus).

Indeed the Scomberomorus type mackerels (long bodies, stripes or dots on side, razor sharp shearing teeth) have never been found in New Zealand (wahoo are a different genus again).

Just to complicate matters- frigate tuna (with a distinct mackerel pattern on their sides) are occasionally found in New Zealand and mackerel tuna (looks like a large frigate tuna) could be. Confusing? Yes.

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