The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Tue, 02 Jun 2026 09:03:00 +0000 Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:13:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=114789 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : Also, as well as the trailer...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1607024&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1607024 Author: Busted!
Subject: 114789
Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 3:13pm

Also, as well as the trailer GVM and vehicle GCM issues you may well strike a major hassle with times of travel and which roads you can actually tow on.  If you go overwidth/height you could strike issues with towing around holiday weekends and the like, which is an arse.
 
We have a simple-trailer barge, 12m and 3400Kg which is on electric over hydraulic braking.  It is a HANDFUL with anything lighter than a 9,000Kg truck, and even then it's not that nice.  I have a 2013 Ranger, and the sheer length of the rig pushes the Ford around - the new Ranger is rated one of the better towing vehicles of the NZ imported standard types.
 
Unless you go to a 5th wheel - type setup you will need to run some form of light truck system, with a small ringfeeder or the like as to the best of my knowledge, NZTA will not allow a simple trailer configuration over 3500Kg GVM.  There have in the past been a couple of the Aussie GVM/GCM upgrade air/over kits with a small ringfeeder system and inbuilt braking compressor that goes onto a Landcruiser to allow 4500Kg GCM in Aussie, but we in NZ know better and they aren't allowable under our rules here.
 
With a 5th-wheel configuration and a boat trailer, length becomes a serious issue as well...  Good luck, you are probably going to need it, some serious patience and a dose of luck in finding the right people to do what you want (and what people from Aussie and the States/Canada do as of right)...
]]> Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:13:10 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1607024&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1607024 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : hey mandm any chance you could...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605369&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605369 Author: anarchy
Subject: 114789
Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 6:50am

hey mandm any chance you could pm me a copy of the email would be interesting in having a full read with the links etc. cheers mike]]> Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:50:47 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605369&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605369 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : BananaBoat wrote:Any response...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605366&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605366 Author: MandM
Subject: 114789
Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 6:40am

Originally posted by BananaBoat BananaBoat wrote:

Any response from nzta is not so, until it is supplied with a link (therefore it is written in law) otherwise it is an opinion from a helpful person

Post on this forum, nzmotorhome.co.nz There are a few regular contributers who know a thing or 2 about heavy towing, with combination units & heavy 5th wheelers
You need to know about the correct weight on the hitch, what would be the ldeal tow rig, all the legal requirements & getting it right first time


It was from NZTA as I emailed them myself.There were links supplied I just didn't include them in this forum.
Cheers.]]> Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:40:21 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605366&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605366 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : Any response from nzta is not...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605345&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605345 Author: BananaBoat
Subject: 114789
Posted: 17 Dec 2015 at 10:35pm

Any response from nzta is not so, until it is supplied with a link (therefore it is written in law) otherwise it is an opinion from a helpful person

Post on this forum, nzmotorhome.co.nz There are a few regular contributers who know a thing or 2 about heavy towing, with combination units & heavy 5th wheelers
You need to know about the correct weight on the hitch, what would be the ldeal tow rig, all the legal requirements & getting it right first time
]]> Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:35:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605345&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605345 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : Got this response from NZTA. Might...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605327&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605327 Author: MandM
Subject: 114789
Posted: 17 Dec 2015 at 9:05pm

Got this response from NZTA. Might interest a few of you. Thanks for everyone s input.

"A medium or heavy trailer is defined as a trailer with a gross vehicle mass (GVM) of more than 3500 kgs.

If the trailer’s GVM is more than 3500 kgs, then it will need to be taken through a Certificate of Fitness inspection and the vehicle would be subject to road user charges (RUC).

With the tow limit on the tow vehicle, although the law does not require these tow ratings to be followed, the Transport Agency recommends that they be taken into account.

One thing to consider also, is the class of licence you hold and the combined weight of the trailer and the tow vehicle. If you hold a class 1 (full car licence) you can drive a vehicle with a Gross Laden Weight (GLW) or Gross Combined Weight (GCW) of no more than 6,000 kgs, otherwise a class 2 (medium rigid vehicle licence) is required".]]> Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:05:45 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1605327&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1605327 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : That legal requirement refers...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604636&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604636 Author: Sealegs
Subject: 114789
Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 12:57pm

That legal requirement refers only to the braking requirements.  Your braked tow rating is the maximum rating that vehicle has been tested and rated for in New Zealand. There is also a maximum downforce rating.   If you exceed either and you have an accident that can be attributed to that, the onus is then on you to prove that it was okay.  Which may be both difficult and expensive.  You will likely have an issue with both insurers and the long arm of the law.

Dene
]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:57:43 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604636&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604636 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : The manufacturers tow bar rating...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604583&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604583 Author: Bossco
Subject: 114789
Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 6:57am

The manufacturers tow bar rating is just a recommendation with no legal standing.

The only legal requirement is "the law requires that every light vehicle and trailer combination must be capable of stopping within a distance of seven metres from a speed of 30km/h."

Insurance wise if you are meeting the legal requirements the insurance company would have to prove that you were otherwise negligent etc. Might pay to check with a COF place though as they state that they check the towing connections and capacity. 
]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2015 06:57:43 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604583&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604583 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : Thanks JB. Think the US truck...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604535&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604535 Author: MandM
Subject: 114789
Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 7:49pm

Thanks JB.
Think the US truck might be the go for longer trips aye. More comfortable option.
Also the added benefit of only maintaining 1 vechile, instead of 2 with insurance, wof etc.
my navara would tow it but need that insurance cover!]]> Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:49:54 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604535&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604535 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : Yea cheers mate. Mooring a good...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604533&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604533 Author: MandM
Subject: 114789
Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 7:45pm

Yea cheers mate.
Mooring a good idea but not in New Plymouth. **** facilities here and no fuel either.
Also needs to be on a trailer as we launch at 2 different ramps and often head up bay islands every summer too. Plans to hit Marlborough sounds to in the future.
All the best!]]> Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:45:07 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604533&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604533 <![CDATA[Heavy Boat / Trailer over 3500kg : MandMWent through a similar planning...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114789&PID=1604441&title=heavy-boat-trailer-over-3500kg#1604441 Author: Don18025
Subject: 114789
Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 8:41am

MandM
Went through a similar planning exercise around 2000 for a new boat.
In the end build a 9.4m launch, weighs 5.5 tonne (fully loaded) and stuck it on a marina berth.
The Marina berth costs a lot less than the tow vehicle and trailer.
The boat is always afloat ready to go when I want it.
And I now drive a Yaris! No need for anything bigger for the boat.
PJC has done the same, he his yacht on a mooring. 

PJC I would suspect that the 5th wheeler my mate owns is considerably lighter than 3.5 tonne, he tows his RIB behind it, calls it a B train!
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