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The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Tips for Longlining....... https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Thu, 28 May 2026 06:22:41 +0000 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:36:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=114026 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : Capt Asparagus wrote:If there...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596366&title=tips-for-longlining#1596366 Author: Lethal
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 7:36pm

Capt Asparagus wrote:

If there are four folks on the boat Smudge? What then?

that is what i mean Capt A 4 people on a boat can take their limit regardless of how they catch them,

its not correct legally you are supposedly keep each angler catch apart,

they never in force it but it is in the rule book...

now 4 people on a beach is a totally different kettle of fish,

you only have one means of catching fish and a machine which depending on how its rigged might need 4 people to set and pull in,

is the owner or group of owners allowed to take more than allocated depending on which coast of coarse,

how many allocations of fish can it be doubled or tripled or even more if all had a hand in it????

]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:36:47 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596366&title=tips-for-longlining#1596366 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : You can take the limit on the...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596348&title=tips-for-longlining#1596348 Author: AndreA
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 6:21pm

You can take the limit on the amount of people on board from my personal experience.Had a morning out fishing with just long lines 3 people on board kept 20 snapper & a couple gurnard came back the the ramp was checked over by MPI officers all good as far as they were concerned.
They checked all the gear counted the hooks(one of the officers did abit of longlining himself & was impressed with the paul Barnes hooks I use).
Checked all over the boat to see if there were any hidden fish great to see them doing a through job.
]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:21:51 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596348&title=tips-for-longlining#1596348 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : If there are four folks on the...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596330&title=tips-for-longlining#1596330 Author: Capt Asparagus
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 4:37pm

If there are four folks on the boat Smudge? What then?]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:37:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596330&title=tips-for-longlining#1596330 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : The finfish limit IS on top of...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596329&title=tips-for-longlining#1596329 Author: smudge
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 4:35pm

The finfish limit IS on top of the snapper limit. I am 100% sure that if you have 2 people working in setting and retrieving the longline then both people are allowed to take their limit.]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:35:04 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596329&title=tips-for-longlining#1596329 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : Yes, snapper are not included...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596328&title=tips-for-longlining#1596328 Author: Capt Asparagus
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 4:33pm

Yes, snapper are not included in the general finfish bag, so kahawai, Tarakihi etc are not included, so you can have your seven snapper, as well as up to twenty other finfish. Pretty generous bags really. And I know, that is not including kingfish and hapuku, you can add that mixed five fish bag as well.....]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:33:06 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596328&title=tips-for-longlining#1596328 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : Snappa Geoff wrote: Lethal...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596326&title=tips-for-longlining#1596326 Author: Clutch
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 4:26pm

Snappa Geoff wrote:

Lethal wrote:

i get the impression Capt A we are crossing horns here some place,

from the shore:

first is the Kontiki longline one person 25 hooks allowable catch is 7 snapper and what ever other species,

if you have one or two other people helping out can they take their Quota of 7 each?

from a boat:

the rules state 1 longline per person with a total of 2 for 2 people and only 2 regardless of anymore on board,

what it doesn't say is how many fish can be kept if there are more than 2 people on board this would be near impossible to police,

situation is 2 longlines 50 hooks 4 fishing-people on board allowable catch is 7 by how many? is it 4 or is it 2people only?

if you say for instants your 2 longlines produces 50 fish are you allowed to take a total of 14 for the 2 gays that own the longlines or 4 lots of 7fish because you all had a hand in retrieving the longlines???

Remember SG your Snapper limit is over and above you 20 fin fish limit. well that's how i read it.

]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:26:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596326&title=tips-for-longlining#1596326 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : i dont think its exceeding the...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596318&title=tips-for-longlining#1596318 Author: Lethal
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 3:47pm

i dont think its exceeding the Limit Geoff its more like what you read into it,

say 3 people arrive with a set line,

one proceeds to feed out the Kontiki tower one other helps feed the line and another clips on the traces,

have we now not got the same situation as a person diving or dredging for scallops?

boatman/diver/observer 3 times the limit can be taken in this situation,

yes i dont know if it is written any were that this is true or false???

so Geoff you may have been ok if others had give you a hand and they were reward with fish reducing your take home catch was back to legal, or they had come home with you and removed X amount when you had finished cleaning up..

]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:47:23 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596318&title=tips-for-longlining#1596318 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : Lethal wrote:i get the impression...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596307&title=tips-for-longlining#1596307 Author: Snappa Geoff
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 2:22pm

Lethal wrote:

i get the impression Capt A we are crossing horns here some place,

from the shore:

first is the Kontiki longline one person 25 hooks allowable catch is 7 snapper and what ever other species,

if you have one or two other people helping out can they take their Quota of 7 each?

from a boat:

the rules state 1 longline per person with a total of 2 for 2 people and only 2 regardless of anymore on board,

what it doesn't say is how many fish can be kept if there are more than 2 people on board this would be near impossible to police,

situation is 2 longlines 50 hooks 4 fishing-people on board allowable catch is 7 by how many? is it 4 or is it 2people only?

Couple of good points there Lethal and Capt. Although our Snapper take is still ten down here i was aware the trailer load i had to many. A Question Lethal if my wife was with me setting longline from beach are you allowed double the amount of Snapper? Also That was one of the few times i did exceed the limit in 25 years of beach longlining. With the amount of Gurnhard and Kahawai here as well they normally out numbered the Snaps per set. Also alot of guys come here with kontiki's and hammer it for a few days with multiple sets of batteries to get as much snapper as they can to take home. In these cases its down to ones honesty as theres no one to stop them exceeding the limit as youv'e stated Lethal.]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:22:02 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596307&title=tips-for-longlining#1596307 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : A couple commentsSure larger than...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596304&title=tips-for-longlining#1596304 Author: Steps
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 1:55pm

A couple comments
Sure larger than the 2. 2 m between hooks will cover greater area with better results....and yeah bit more applicable for shore based long lines...
But longer lays means more interference/ restrictions of others around u....and as far as boat based goes, its NOT about the BIG catch.. its about getting a feed when fishing is hard, and or prospecting areas see if its working yet.

With all due respect..
My old man put tubes over traces on his kontiki....he died over 40yrs ago and the kontiki was before the plastic bag fad starting in the early... back then was a couple galved down pipes( anyone rem when they where still around) rigged up into a catamaran configuration and a square sail rigging... and again he set his hooks closer but positioned into his target area....those days no 4x4s or bikes to haul big catches back.
Oh and go to bait back then was mullet and trev, sometimes squid, but that was expensive.

As to rules.. there is reality. the limit is say 7 per ppl... 3 ppl on board.. chances are they have dropped a couple fishing lines and already have a couple in the bin.
Does that mean the 2 pulling the line up, the 3rd will it on their bum? or maybe clean hooks as they come in or manoeuvre the boat or unhook the catch ?
So one of the 3 has 2 in the bin.. he can have 5 off the LL....the other 2 can have total 14.....end of the day in practical terms it still comes down to 7 per person for each that has dropped a line in the water.

As applies to land based.. its just not clear...
]]> Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:55:47 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596304&title=tips-for-longlining#1596304 <![CDATA[Tips for Longlining....... : Capt Asparagus wrote:How...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114026&PID=1596298&title=tips-for-longlining#1596298 Author: dalgo
Subject: 114026
Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 1:37pm

Capt Asparagus wrote:

How about the rules pertaining to long lining.....just to clarify things a little.
You obviously can only take your limit, but for how many people on board? If you have four people on board, can you take 4 limits?
Can you set longlines multiple times in one day?
You need a float with name and phone number in it, is it compulsory to have a float at both ends of the longline? ( not a problem if setting in 15m of water, but I imagine a pain in the ass if dropping a dan-line for puka in 250m!)

1. For a boat, no different from rod fishing, 4 people = 4 limits. Although the rules do actually say the limit is 'per person' this is generally applied as a group limit.

2. Yes you can set multiple times.

3. No you don't need a float at both ends. The rules state that any surface float has to be marked with surname and initials, but doesn't specify how many floats.

My opinion anyway.

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