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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :   Harmul wrote:   Snappa Geoff...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=82034">miktaras</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Jun 2015 at 6:14am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Harmul" alt="Originally posted by Harmul" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Harmul wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Snappa Geoff" alt="Originally posted by Snappa Geoff" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Snappa Geoff wrote:</strong><br /><br />In there Report- Whitebait stocks steadily reclining, there habitat being polluted and destroyed. Utter Rubbish! Maybe north of Bombays. But here in Naki record catches last season for most whitebaiters that keep there yearly diaries. Especially on the more reconized rivers the Mokau and Awakino. Many people i know over 100 kgs for season. And on pollution Niwa works with local council and have planting programs,fence off breeding areas where stock have access. Rat and mice erradication. Was once thought whitebait came back up same river there eggs were washed out to hatch at sea. A few years back down here niwa caught and died a whole lot from mokau mouth set them free a k up river. A few days later alot where caught up rivers miles from Mokau. They now now the Whitebait do go out to sea again on outgoing tides, and have another go up a different river. I think farming them a &nbsp;waste of time and money, as the returns to make it viable would never be there. Has been tried in Raglan harbour i think.Was a program few years back on tv, the Guy doing it packed it in after a few years.</td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Record season up here North of the StupidCity last year as well. All it did was turn the greedy greedier. They couldn't get it thru their skulls the more they let thru, the more that would have a chance to breed in following years. Sadly all it did was bring out the ****ers that walk amongst us.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Greed is sadly part of human nature.&nbsp; I know jack about whitebait but what you say sounds about right.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=49260">Davefish</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Jun 2015 at 10:09am<br /><br />SHHHHH!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :   Snappa Geoff wrote:In there...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=78880">Harmul</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Jun 2015 at 8:10am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Snappa Geoff" alt="Originally posted by Snappa Geoff" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Snappa Geoff wrote:</strong><br /><br />In there Report- Whitebait stocks steadily reclining, there habitat being polluted and destroyed. Utter Rubbish! Maybe north of Bombays. But here in Naki record catches last season for most whitebaiters that keep there yearly diaries. Especially on the more reconized rivers the Mokau and Awakino. Many people i know over 100 kgs for season. And on pollution Niwa works with local council and have planting programs,fence off breeding areas where stock have access. Rat and mice erradication. Was once thought whitebait came back up same river there eggs were washed out to hatch at sea. A few years back down here niwa caught and died a whole lot from mokau mouth set them free a k up river. A few days later alot where caught up rivers miles from Mokau. They now now the Whitebait do go out to sea again on outgoing tides, and have another go up a different river. I think farming them a &nbsp;waste of time and money, as the returns to make it viable would never be there. Has been tried in Raglan harbour i think.Was a program few years back on tv, the Guy doing it packed it in after a few years.</td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Record season up here North of the StupidCity last year as well. All it did was turn the greedy greedier. They couldn't get it thru their skulls the more they let thru, the more that would have a chance to breed in following years. Sadly all it did was bring out the ****ers that walk amongst us.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :  Best ask Vinnie if it is anything...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=57071">bazza</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 8:20pm<br /><br />Best ask Vinnie if it is anything to do with whitebait. as he probably the foremost authority here&nbsp;on the forum hence his username of "Baitcatcher"<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Likewise when it comes to cooking them as anyone at the Fishnet xmas party a few years back that tried</div><div>his curried whitebait fritters will attest to.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Curried whitebait you may well ask ...... well yeah I was totally sceptical as well until I tried one then realised not all curries need to be overpowering &amp; in this instance the mild flavous were ultra complementary.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed : Wasn&amp;#039;t sure if this was for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=46841">Tagit</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 7:17pm<br /><br />Wasn't sure if this was for real or not initially, but they have job adds out for more filleters so it must be true.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :  South islannd white tend to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=75801">pjc</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 6:48pm<br /><br />South islannd white tend to bigger I have heard.but still cannot beat a feed at mokau, heading south last shop on left]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :   bazza wrote:   Davefish wrote:two...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=83343">Snappa Geoff</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 6:17pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by bazza" alt="Originally posted by bazza" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>bazza wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Davefish" alt="Originally posted by Davefish" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Davefish wrote:</strong><br /><br />two main reasons against trout farming i can think of: 1. chance of getting a hell disease that then gets into wild populations. 2.<font color="#ff0000"> if trout can be bought and sold then the poaching fraternity just got a pay rise.</font><div><br>&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>Yep Bazza anyone catching can sell there catch or even set up a sign outside there batch-home and sell to passers bye. Tax was introduced mainly to businesses buying and reselling for profit. But it is very hard to police, so most of it is still cash. I might add when the bait run you can make alot of money quickly if your on the river when the bait are there. Most areas have different rules depending on size of rivers and being in North or South Island. Also when you start catching the Gutties or Enunga as they are called in with the fresh clear ones, not to hard to sort through as they stick out like Dogs Balls! But when theres more enunga's than bait easier to tip e'm back in river. Thats when its a pain......Cheers.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Whitebait are the only&nbsp;seafood I am aware of that amateur fisho's can legally sell&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;pretty sure there is no limit to the amount you can take&nbsp;providing it is in season &amp; no licence is&nbsp;required to catch or sell.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>However there are certain regulations regards the allowable methods to catch them but no min size, as&nbsp;if you could imagine having to sort thru a few thousand whitebait in order to individually measure them.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Will be curious to find out what they taste like but if they are bred in relatively static water rather than instinctively running kms up rivers then am inclined to think they will tend to taste more like the Chinese product sold in supermarkets that I am told&nbsp;are harvested from lakes &amp; do not have the same taste as their wild counterparts.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Then again I understand that even in NZ there are over a dozen varieties of whitebait of which it is generally&nbsp;recognised those called "Number ones"&nbsp;are in fact largely considered to be&nbsp;the number one.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed :   Davefish wrote:two main reasons...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=57071">bazza</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 5:43pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Davefish" alt="Originally posted by Davefish" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Davefish wrote:</strong><br /><br />two main reasons against trout farming i can think of: 1. chance of getting a hell disease that then gets into wild populations. 2.<font color="#ff0000"> if trout can be bought and sold then the poaching fraternity just got a pay rise.</font><div><br>&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Whitebait are the only&nbsp;seafood I am aware of that amateur fisho's can legally sell&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;pretty sure there is no limit to the amount you can take&nbsp;providing it is in season &amp; no licence is&nbsp;required to catch or sell.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>However there are certain regulations regards the allowable methods to catch them but no min size, as&nbsp;if you could imagine having to sort thru a few thousand whitebait in order to individually measure them.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Will be curious to find out what they taste like but if they are bred in relatively static water rather than instinctively running kms up rivers then am inclined to think they will tend to taste more like the Chinese product sold in supermarkets that I am told&nbsp;are harvested from lakes &amp; do not have the same taste as their wild counterparts.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Then again I understand that even in NZ there are over a dozen varieties of whitebait of which it is generally&nbsp;recognised those called "Number ones"&nbsp;are in fact largely considered to be&nbsp;the number one.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Whitebait to be farmed : my parents used to cook us &amp;#039;mock...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=87056">Steps</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 5:16pm<br /><br /><i>my parents used to cook us 'mock whitebait fritters' using grated potato. kind of a glorious name for a hash brown but that was my intro to whitebait as a northerner!<br><br></i>Then there was the tripe white bait fritters... Tripe cut into white bait size slivers.<br>marking the eyes with the felt tip pen was a bit of a mission thu<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br><i></i>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=49260">Davefish</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 110666<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jun 2015 at 4:52pm<br /><br />two main reasons against trout farming i can think of: 1. chance of getting a hell disease that then gets into wild populations. 2. if trout can be bought and sold then the poaching fraternity just got a pay rise.<div><br></div><div>whitebait farmed? maybe the disease concern applies.</div><div>it's not until resources within striking distance of akl get wiped out that there's any meaningful action over habitat protection and/or catch restrictions. funny that.</div><div>my parents used to cook us 'mock whitebait fritters' using grated potato. kind of a glorious name for a hash brown but that was my intro to whitebait as a northerner!</div>]]>
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