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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzmg0MURkc no...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2015 at 8:27pm<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYzmg0MURkc<div><br></div><div>no sound on this but interesting....none the less.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? :   Titahi wrote:LBD can you explain...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2015 at 8:13pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Titahi" alt="Originally posted by Titahi" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Titahi wrote:</strong><br /><br />LBD can you explain how KW guides stop line leaving the spool faster than it can exit the rod tip?<div><br></div><div>I'll try and explain it again for you.....&nbsp;</div><div>When the line is travelling faster at the stripper guide than at the tip the line bunches up, and loops around guides/blank. Seeing as how the insert material in KW &nbsp;guides is the same as used in other guides it will have the same drag co-efficient. &nbsp;The only difference is the forward slanted guide feet are <b>less prone </b>to collecting the loops that accumulate when wind casts develop, therefore any wind cast developed loops slid forward off the guide....</div><div>I also have rods with KW guides, sorry but a sample of 2 isnt representive enough for me to be sold, and it flies in the face of the actual physics of wind knots.</div><div><br></div><div>I did say</div><div>"<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253; line-height: 1.4;">K guides <b>dont eliminate the effect</b>, they only reduce the likelyhood of the line snagging"</span></div></td></tr></table><div><img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />............there is a video on you tube showing you how the knots untangle themselves.....so its not so much they eliminate the knots happening.....they eliminate them causing trouble....the guides design untangles them so they dont cause a problem....will see if i can find the link.....I know synit use them a lot and they are a very well respected rod maker.<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=72794">Titahi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2015 at 11:29am<br /><br />LBD can you explain how KW guides stop line leaving the spool faster than it can exit the rod tip?<div><br></div><div>I'll try and explain it again for you.....&nbsp;</div><div>When the line is travelling faster at the stripper guide than at the tip the line bunches up, and loops around guides/blank. Seeing as how the insert material in KW &nbsp;guides is the same as used in other guides it will have the same drag co-efficient. &nbsp;The only difference is the forward slanted guide feet are <b>less prone </b>to collecting the loops that accumulate when wind casts develop, therefore any wind cast developed loops slid forward off the guide....</div><div>I also have rods with KW guides, sorry but a sample of 2 isnt representive enough for me to be sold, and it flies in the face of the actual physics of wind knots.</div><div><br></div><div>I did say</div><div>"<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253; line-height: 1.4;">K guides <b>dont eliminate the effect</b>, they only reduce the likelyhood of the line snagging"</span></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? : Above is spot on....The last line...I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2015 at 5:21pm<br /><br />Above is spot on....The last line...I dont agree with so much(i think its very effective.there is a video on you tube demonstrating how it works) .....well i have never had one and neither has arron and we both use synits with those KW guides.....on a side note......A useful thing i learned from somewhere else which might help you.........hang the lure ...close to half way down the rod when casting.......not up near the top............you have more of a pendulum type cast......so it will go further with less effort.......doing this way..........I dont even hear the PR knot go through the guides at all.......I do a 1 and a half to 2 inch PR knot......keep it short.......then i put uv knot sense over the half hitches and a light smear between fingers and fondle the PR itself........protects the whole knot and makes it slip through the guides better.....that knot aint going no where!....by keeping it short and putting uv knot sense on your knot......you can eliminate your knot catching on the guides.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? : Wind knots ARE caused by the simple...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=72794">Titahi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2015 at 11:24am<br /><br />Wind knots ARE caused by the simple mechanics of line leaving the spool faster than it can exit the tip of the rod. The result is line spiralling in concertina off the spool and unable to be choked( funneled into the &nbsp;guide fast enough) it wraps around the guide as opposed to travelling through it ........ &nbsp;The effect can occur anywhere on the guide train, but is more prevalent at the stripper guide as this is where the line is moving fastet as it comes off the spool.<div>&nbsp;Over powering the cast will cause it</div><div>&nbsp;Too light a lure for the guide train/ braid spool configuration will cause it.</div><div>&nbsp;Knots catching on the guide train will cause it.</div><div>&nbsp;Casting into the wind will cause it.</div><div>&nbsp;Over spooling the line on a spool will cause it.</div><div><br></div><div>K guides dont eliminate the effect, they only reduce the likelyhood of the line snagging on the guide by default of their &nbsp;forward slant.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? :   strx7 wrote:trying to cast...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=77991">KingySlayer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2015 at 8:30am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by strx7" alt="Originally posted by strx7" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>strx7 wrote:</strong><br /><br />trying to cast to far with too much effort/force/speed can also cause it to do that.<br><br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>This is a wicked statement also ^. You will find that casting with the rod doing the work will get you almost as far as giving it the goliath swing. But yes to much effort can cause this.</div><div><br></div><div>Madkeen how long is your PR? I have experimented with way to much leader on the spool and never had an issue? I guess it could be a combination of many things, cross winds, sloppy line, over spooled, fluro carbon. ...</div><div><br></div><div>We use Synit Van Deimen rods with K guides. All rods ranging from the x13 to x58 we have never had an issue.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? :  Leader length is from casting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=82884">southernwanderer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2015 at 8:28am<br /><br />Leader length is from casting finger to rod tip then about half a rod length to lure. This was one of the first things i did adjust, might have to try a few session with the kaibutsu as it has the k guides, see if that makes a difference. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? : I have a 4 or 5 metre trace with...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2015 at 6:44am<br /><br />I have a 4 or 5 metre trace with varivas Gt pe6 and 130 pound varivas leader...........never had that but then i have the KW fuji anti tangle guides on my synit topshot lalandi also.<div>Good advise from Ginga and kingyslayer i reckon......they are &nbsp;out there doing it all the time..</div><div>Arron from the LBG section has used the same amount of trace on his sw18000 with his carpenter blue chaser for a long time and hasnt had any issues either....both lbg and charters.</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The soft braid would be my pick<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />...seeing you have ruled out over spooling.</div><div>Strx has a point too.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? :   KingySlayer wrote:   southernwanderer...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=72945">MadKeen#</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 Jan 2015 at 10:32pm<br /><br />  <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by KingySlayer" alt="Originally posted by KingySlayer" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>KingySlayer wrote:</strong><br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by southernwanderer" alt="Originally posted by southernwanderer" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>southernwanderer wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />On the subject of leaders, what is the main cause of the line catching/wrapping the first guide? My main line is suffix 832 50lb, this is fg knotted to 100 mono, has happened 3 times with different brands each time, resulting in a crack off each time (lucky to get lure back each time).</td></tr></table><br /><div><br /></div><div>Mate is this happening on first cast straight after a fresh respool? What can happen is over time with casting and retreiving, you are moving the rod to fast and winding in sloppy line. What happens then is say the top 50m of braid is really soft on the spool then when you go to cast the line is tight as heck when rod is loaded. The tight line then drags the "not-tight" line with it causing knots and all kinds of caose. What you can do is check the hardness of the spooling after say every 20 cast by squeezing the braid. If starting to feel soft just light flick lure out let it take all sloppy line and then simply wind the lure back onto spool (dont sweep). This will give you tight braid again on spool. </div><div><br /></div><div>I cast with 2 wraps of 130lb varivas on the spool of our saltigas with ah jb hollow 100lb and never have an issue. </div><div><br /></div><div>But worth a look see anyway mate.</div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />If your leader is too long it can be an issue sometimes. I found that if my leader was long enough to reach the spool when casting the centrifugal force of the PR knot coming off the spool would cause it to wrap right round the blank and first guide. That was with 832 50 lb and 100 lb Yo zuri. Hasn't happened since I reduced my leader length to about a metre. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Leader????? : trying to cast to far with too...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52540">strx7</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 106821<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 Jan 2015 at 8:16pm<br /><br />trying to cast to far with too much effort/force/speed can also cause it to do that.<br><br>]]>
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