KikBac wrote: Article was first published in 2011. Kiwi mortality (89 tagged kiwi deaths) is the total mortality from ALL causes (including predation) over a five year period. Significantly, there was no 1080 dropped in the Tongariro forest between 2006 and 2011 (the survey period.) To imply that all 89 deaths, or even some of these deaths, were due to 1080 poisoning is simply misleading. |
Southern_Jez wrote: What you said Tagit is also different to the claim in the title of this thread: 89 Kiwi Killed In 1080 Dropthese misleading claims do no party any favours. I'm all for an alternative to 1080, however, until there is one, it is the best tool for the job whether we like it or not there is no way you can come up with a plan to trap Fiordland and still have tax payers money for health and education. |
Tagit wrote: A forest with a few less birds and a lot more deer & pigs is actually going to attract a lot more visitors and supply a lot more use to the average Kiwi. For every bird watcher I have ever seen in the bush I have seen a 100+ hunters. Getting rid of predators is a fantastic goal, but making the bush a place that far fewer people are going to use/visit is not really a great side effect. Just because DOC say that they are going to try and return something to it's 'natural state', doesn't mean that this is the best possible result for the people of this country. |
Tagit wrote: A forest with a few less birds and a lot more deer & pigs is actually going to attract a lot more visitors and supply a lot more use to the average Kiwi. For every bird watcher I have ever seen in the bush I have seen a 100+ hunters. Getting rid of predators is a fantastic goal, but making the bush a place that far fewer people are going to use/visit is not really a great side effect. Just because DOC say that they are going to try and return something to it's 'natural state', doesn't mean that this is the best possible result for the people of this country. |
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