.45 Magnum by SkeltonCraft

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The pickup date (Wednesday next week! Thumbs Up) has finally been set for Dads new weapon for his retirement (whenever that will be), am making this topic for future reference as SkeltonCraft have minimal information out there in the boating industry for NZ.

A quick run down of what she is and why it was selected compared to others on the market.
Firstly, the struggle to flick the 520 Lazercraft around at my parents place is exactly that. It is a mission, us younger folks it is no dramas but for my parents, its just an incidient waiting to happen and the risk with injury / damage is to either boat or house or them is simply not worth the hassle, hence the downsize to something ideally in the 4.3-4.5m range.

After looking at every possibility on the market offered in NZ the search was narrowed down, now although my parents boating desires now is considerably different to their offsprings boat use. (with age comes wisdom and selects decent weather windows and the option to not freeze in the ocean every weekend) The intended purpose is for when Mum and Dad retire they are able to enjoy a day out on the water hassle free and if the weather gets a bit snotty can slowly chug home nice and dry and warm, while trying to obtain the comforts of the lazercraft (although we are well aware that simply no boat will ride as good as lazer)

Pontoon boats got scrapped fairly quickly.. Their construction materials are simply thinner alloy to keep the weights down and also more welds more things to go wrong. Their beams across the market are terribly narrow for length and then the internal beam is horrendous. The ride of a pontoon boat is going to be like hitting brick walls compared to the where we have come from with the lazer.

Mclays, FC boats quickly got ruled out for various reasons and obviously the last standing contender was the .45 Magnum by Skelton Craft. (it is what we went for after all)

Firstly I would like to say, that Mark and the team at SkeltonCraft have done an exceptional job, everything we have thrown at them that has required some thought and 3D CAD planning. It has been executed brilliantly, they have gone above and beyond for us and they are based in Taupo and have a range of boats and will actually listen to what you have to say. The build process did take a lot longer than expected the price you pay for good workmanship and when suppliers take a bit longer to get materials and others bits and pieces the delays that are out of their hands however the delays do all add up but it is all good.

Secondly, Elite Auto Spray in Taupo have done a fantastic job on the painting of the boat. Big props to these guys. The finish is amazing.

Thirdly, Pacific Coast Marine & Diesel in Whitianga for being absoutlely good buggers and having the big heart sitting in their workshop since ordering the motor at the boat show (also for having the sharpest pencil out of all the dealers from Taupo to Whangarei.)

The .45 Magnum:
 - 4.5m length
 - 2.2m beam
 - 17 degrees deadrise
 - 60L underfloor tank standard (100L underfloor tank is what we have gone with)
 - Foldable centre cab (2.1m so fits in a standard garage)
 - 5mm hull, 3mm sides 
 - Custom build Alloy trailer by Skelton Craft
 
The extra's:
 - Scrapped the dive ladder that comes standard. Pointless extra clutter on the transom.
 - Scrapped having a wash down pump.
 - Scrapped the live bait tank that is built in with the chopping board. (personal preference, lucky dip fishing isn't high on the families priorities, would never get used)
 - Tow bracket added to the Chopping board to be able to wakeboard / ski / sea biscuit.
 - Opted for no cleats, less tangles with float lines and can use the handles / bowrails for ropes at ramps / pontoons.
 - Viper Rapid 1000 drum winch
 - Got the hardtop / centre cab thing strengthen so I can stand / sit on it when out wide for marlin.
 - Painted in Holdens Poison Ivy Green (was hard finding a colour that would stand out and not blend in with the ocean and have Mum and Dad agreeing to it!)
 - Nyalic everywhere else that hasn't been painted
 - More fish holders than you can shake a stick at, more importantly a few on the hard top part. Ideal for the dive flag. Nice and visable.

The sparkie stuff:
 - Garmin ECHOMAP 95SV paired with the GT51M-TM (600W) transducer
 - GME VHF with a 1.8m Aerial and a AM/FM splitter
 - Fusion RA70 (I think from memory) with just two 6 Inch 200W speakers mounted in the dash.
 - White / Blue LED lighting kit with a dimable switch the entire way around the gunwales
 - Windscreen Wiper
 - Bilge pump
 - Navigation Lights
 - Twin Batteries, 780CCA decided against having one starter and one deep cycle, just have two starters.
 - USB chargers for the GoPros / Phones.

 The heart transplant:
 - Suzuki DF100B
 - Single digital Suzuki gauge
 - NMEA Kit to pair GPS speed from the Garmin to the Digital Gauge
 - Hydraulic steering

After all of the above being considered the boat name has been selected to be UnderGunned as we think that fits it pretty well.

Special Thanks to Steps for letting me pick at his brain and mull over ideas and have good relative input.

Krow for the input with the future lightbar because it will be coming. 

Muzzfishing for saving us a few bucks with the input on the transducer and how Burnsco swap them out and then just have to make up the difference! 

Appreciate it a lot guys. Looking forward to getting the motor slapped on the back and finishing off a few things that need to be installed and getting her out on the water! Bring on the next few weeks!

Photos to follow from today little trip to Taupo.
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She still has a bit of finishing off to do and I've probably missed a lot of things. 
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very nice. Firm believer of why bash home at 20knts and be uncomfortable when,as you say, chug home safe n dry.
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Man that thing is gonna boogey with a 100 on the back :o
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Certainly is going to be interesting to what its performance figures are like, it has 10% more beam than any other boat in its size class and built on the solid side so will be extremely interesting.

The guys over at Whitianga ordered the standard Suzuki prop for it with 19" pitch and will be starting from there. At a guess i'm picking it will require 20" pitch but leave it up to the professionals to sort out. 

Thank goodness the petrol is cheap in Hamilton! 100L is going to make the old fella cry filling it up LOLLOL


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That looks great - keen to hear how it goes on the water
You can never have enough fishing tackle
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Well shes in our possession and the trailer is 2.36m guard to guard and my garage doors in hamilton are 2.3m so she spent the night outside.

Bit of a stuff up in the courier means it doesnt have the dvsr / vsr whatever they are called 4 way switch thingies for the batteries. No dramas we will slap it in.

On a side note. Good to see my boat parking pit I made being used for its purpose!






Shes now heading off to Whitianga for the heart transplant bring on the 100 ponies!

Also have bought the deck tread and is sitting in the lounge along with the led lights for under the gunnels. Will have a bit of tinkering to do when we get her back from the motor install.
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Been a long time in the process from initial thoughts.
 looking good, and practical as 1st intended.
Also very well powered, gental on the throttle, economic.
Results of good research.
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Quick update. Few teething issues as to be expected.

The original plan to fold the top towards the bow to fit in the garage isnt as easy as first thought. Requires two people and isnt practical for mum and dad. Will be changing the way the vhf wire runs and making a plug in / unplug adapter for the windscreen wiper to allow it to be folded down into the cockpit.

We may also look at getting more alloy panels to cover where the batteries sit as there is way less room than originally thought and making the wiring and all that stuff out of the elements seems much more appealing
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Is the whole centre console fold down able towards the stern?

Any reason why just the top section from dash up was not considered to fold down?
 Forward or back.
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Bottom bit of the glass you can see in the first photo posted where it pivorts to fold down. Just simply undo the wing nuts at the front of the cabin thingy and hold the rocket launcher up top and walk slowly backwards. Makes it 2.1m height to sneak into garages.

Ill get a photo of both folded forward and backwards next week when shes back in the driveway.
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Quick update.

Shes had her heart transplant the fellas at PC marine managed to get her to 6000rpm when it was blowing 25knots last week hitting 32knots on the gps with 80L onboard and 2 blokes in the boat.

She has a few things to get ironed out so Mark from skeltoncraft has taken her back to Taupo.

The things include. Making the guards stronger so we can stand on them.

Covering the batteries at the rear (we have decides we dont mind the wasted space but having all the wiring and batteries out of the elements is more important than the minor storage space left over on the transom).

Transducer is to go lower and to have the spray cover design changed to how I want.



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Have just got back from the first attempt at an outing.

Good news its very stable. Comfortable and goes well.

Bad news got to the enterance of the harbour to have the motor start sort of cutting out / starving of fuel but had enough fuel didnt have to prime it to start it.. (happened 4 times) Voltage fine. No alarm bells from the suzuki controller throttle thingy like when the tote runs out in the lazer . Has a fuel filter so can't be stuff in the fuel.. Its almost like a misfire? Is connect to the sounder via nmea2000 network. Oil pressure fine. Temperature of the motor fine.

But anyways this is what the outboard doctors are for. Hoping its something that makes me look like a fool like a wire that has a poor connection or something.

Brightside. 27knots at 13.3l per hour 4300rpm (with the out going tide)
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Found the issue and have made things more friendly to access and to diagnose while at out sea in the process.

A bundle of excess wires bundled up and placed around the fuel line cause the line to have a slight kink and im assuming when going over wake etc it was enough pressure to starve the motor from fuel. Also there was no quick way to acess the priming bulb as it was.

The excitement to take the new toy out without properly checking things has been a lesson learnt.
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Four years on, what are your thoughts on this boat?
Looking at something similar but only a 60 on the back. Young family of 4 but mum gets sick so rarely a passenger…
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Hi there Musing things

For the size of the boat they are extremely good. Small boat and can do a number of things comfortably. I'd imagine the 60hp would be more than sufficient. The 100hp is rarely used.
It's certainly a weapon when it comes to space. You can fish quite comfortably. When the weather packs up you can happily slowly get home dry. 
If you don't mind the body taking a toll, with the weight right. You can push the boat fairly hard with a fairly harsh ride and get home in some lumpy stuff quickly (comfortable in 15knots of wind is 20knots of speed)

Funnily enough, it's the swell that limits the boats speed the most, close together with a short period can be absolutely painful to run into, it gets airborne rather easy. Most people aren't in a rush to get to their next destination though. 

The only issues we have had since purchasing has been with the trailer. One of the rollers went missing somewhere in northland, not a weld that broke but somehow sheared through the metal. We have since put another set of rollers in to spread weight more evenly and we had an issue with getting the boat off the back roller at low tide, float off no worries. Pushing off was a mission. Sorted with some adjustments. Skeltoncraft never returned phone calls, emails or anything regarding the trailer issues. We ended up fixing at our cost. I would very much doubt any support from the builder Mark will be possible going forward for anyone. (still havnt heard to date and this would have been nearly 2 years back at a guess) 

Check the front windscreen where the cab folds down forward. Ours is starting to crack along the folded seam which I would assume is based on forces when towing

Overall though for a small boat they're very beamy. Extremely practical. Very sea worthy for their size and they absolutely fly for their size. 
Rate I better than the 14ft 6 sea nymph I grew up with by a mile and those hulls are tried and proven. 

I would take the 520 Lazercraft over this boat any day of the week however but length and hull shape make the Lazercraft impossible to compare. Completely different platforms and my focus on a boat is spearfishing not tackle fiddling so ride out weighs comfort at rest in my book. 

With the 100hp on a flat calm day. It is a lot of fun to be able to keep up with the big boats full noise knowing you are only burning 30l an hour and sitting at 70 odd kph

I do need to give credit where it is due. As a teenager going into a young adult, brother and I destroyed a 12ft fyran and the 370 enforcer had the hull crack and cause multiple issues. Mainly from being driven hard and used.
This boat has had similar treatment and is still going strong, when it gets lumpy and dad isn't onboard. We just punch it home.

For a young family of 4 would be absolutely fantastic. They are extremely stable, plenty of room to be in just pick your days with the missus and you'll be sweet as. We have no hesitation to take ours to the hen and chicks, poor knights etc

The only thing I would change if we could redo it would be the seating position. We rarely sit down with two. Its tight, it's alright for couples wanting to be in each other's grill but I don't unfortunately look at my mates and brother that way so... I'd swap it for one big chair at the helm and make everyone else sit behind on the chilly bin or stand. 
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Thanks for getting back to me mate.
Good to hear how it’s gone for you.
I picked it up yesterday looking forward to getting out. The guys I got it off had replaced their rollers as the boat had cut them in half, will see how the new ones go and maybe adjust design like you. Sounds like Skelton shut down after Covid so nothing going to come from there I guess.
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Enjoy it! Saw the one you've probably bought on marketplace. Was listed at half the price my father paid for his one!

Looks like Mark still has the company on the companies register



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