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only know to do that cause lethal posted it years ago. learn lots of you smart buggers on this site.
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Originally posted by CanadianJohn CanadianJohn wrote:

smudge, what is the tilt tube?


It is the hollow pin that the motor pivots on when you trim it. The steering cable rod goes inside it. They usually rust on the inside and the grease nipple lubes where the motor pivots, not the steering rod.


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thanks smudge, i googled it! thought it was called something else.

mine was fine inside with lots of clearance and no corrosion.

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If your cable is anything like mine it has seized because the owner pre me was greasing it with normal grease. Each new grease pushes the old grease up further and further and as it drys out it locks onto the cable. The cable is SS so won't rust unless you have damaged the outer sheath and that will rust and cause binding to the inner as it swells up. That was why I eventually replaced mine some 10+ years after I freed it up. Now I finally get to the point. I did like you have done and hung it from the ceiling for days without much action. The trick is to spin the old grease out. Slowly and manually at first I spun the internal cable, as it could turn slightly more freely I got bored and hooked it up to the cordless drill and near instant success. You just have to work out what way is the correct way to spin it. From memory it was anti clockwise spinning from the helm end. I then cleaned out more residue by flushing with petrol.
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yeah i tightened it in the chuck of my cordless before hanging it. tried a bit one way then the other. not go. it seems to be seized at the outboard end of the cable. will try again tomorrow.

from memory it was just oil that people have put down the cable. but could be wrong, might have been something else that penetrates better. will google it bit tomorrow. 
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Some cables will have a grease nipple just outside of the nut that jolds it on to the tilt tube. Remove it and get oil in there.
Otherwise, you need to do it from the helm end
I still think the safest option is a replacement cable, quick, clean and guaranteed results.
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will be getting a new cable tomorrow. made absolutely no progress with it today.!
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I was told putting antifreeze up the cables helps.
Mine steering aldo gets harx to turn sometimes. Also check it before i head out and once a month give it a turn lwft and right
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shame previous owner didn't do something as the cable is otherwise fine.
ah well, guess a new cable will give peice of mind. and of course what else would i rather do on my day off?
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shame previous owner didn't do something as the cable is otherwise fine.

 So you have it back in and checked for overall play?
ie how much it takes turning the wheel before the motor moves...
 A good cable / helm will have a little over an inch.

To check the helm only play...cable hooked in the back and clamped up...the cover over the tail end off.. hold tight.. pliers with rag protecting cable... move the wheel.. there should be no play before the cable tail moves.

I mentioned above that made a thread not long ago.. has everything you need to check how to, measuring greasing maintenance etc in it... and forum search button above.
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the cable is seized completely so i can feel the play in the helm. it is minimal. inhave had the same setup on another mac 420 whoch i bought new and remember how much play there was in the helm.
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for anyone needing to replace thier cable and worried its not a DIY job ........

HAVE NO FEAR!!

.......because its not that hard. two or three tricky parts but if i can do it anyone can.

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