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Topic: Weekend Chrome **Video Clip**
Posted By: flyfisher
Subject: Weekend Chrome **Video Clip**
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 3:55pm
A short clip from the weekend when Dan and I headed to Turangi for some "weekend chrome", the river was busy, but we managed quite a few nice Rainbow's amongst the rafters, kayaker's and other anglers.

To say it was cold would be an understatement, down to minus 7 overnight.

 

Andrew



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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 9:09am
Thumbs UpAs usual, some great photography to accompany the great fishing!Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 9:18am
Excellent~~my casting arm is twitching Big smile


Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 9:53am
So is mine!



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Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 10:44am
Jesus Fishb8... you gotta be more careful removing the hook from a trouts mouth?!!!...


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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 10:55am
Far out...
is that your hand Roy?
Jeeez, if it is, I hope you're right handedShocked


Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 8:28pm
Bloody hell, Roy, you've probably been told more than once, pick the bloody knife up by the handle! Seriously though I hope that heals soon.

Meanwhile another great video Andrew, we were in those spots ( upstream of the Red hut bridge) on Sunday, Fish everywhere, some real donkeys in there, so much fun!


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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by Uncle Uncle wrote:

Far out...
is that your hand Roy?
Jeeez, if it is, I hope you're right handedShocked
Right handed.
Operation for a Duypretrens release.
No cycling/biking for 3 months...or fishing.
Can live with that for a good result.


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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 9:15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1wrZP2i9y4

Never heard of Duypretrens before so asked Google.
When I watched the vid, I found my hand hiding behind my backLOL
Hope it works for you RoyBig smile


Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 10:33pm
Great video guys - going down thur week till sunday.




Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 11:24am
Great video, love to see the blue ducks etc.

Often when I walked up to a pool on the Big T I used to think 'wouldn't it be great if I could see if there were actually any fish in this pool' rather than spend an hour or so fishing into vacant water.
Drones are obviously the answer. An amazing perspective.

Those fish are starting to resemble years gone by in terms of quality. And good to see there's still more to the Tongariro than the Bridge Pool and the old braids area.


Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 11:37am
Cheers mate, Russell it's gonna be busy alright! I'm also heading up with a mate who guides in the Nelson area to give him a winter fix from the 12th.

That shot of those fish was funny, there was three guys peppering that spot for about 1.5 hours before I popped the drone up for a look, I called them over to show them what they were drifting through without a touch and they were absolutely flabbergasted there were that many fish holding there!

I think it's pretty typical of that river, no matter how barren the water looks, they are always there, so once we figured out a plan to go longer and heavier in the flow it was game on for the next hour! Win for the drone!

Cheers, Andrew


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Posted By: Chad51
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 11:50am
taking sight fishing to the next level Andrew! 

A small change like leader length can definitely make all the difference. Had some issues landing fish Sunday morning though. Fishing quite high up the boulder reach and had to go real long on the leader. Just couldn't get the fish close enough to land with the net. anyone with any suggestions? I long handled landing net perhaps.  


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 12:39pm
Just don't try to pull the last couple of metres in by hand - I've made that mistake when I was backed up against manuka trees in the old Boulder Reach. When the beauty I had on made one last lunge, snap.

and there's a YouTube clip of a big brownie being lost on the Tongariro (old Admirals area) when the angler tries to hand line it in at the end.

I guess if you use a smaller indicator without any kind of clip it might be able to fit through the rod guides?


Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 12:41pm
As always excellent, and getting execellenter! 

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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by flyfisher flyfisher wrote:


I think it's pretty typical of that river, no matter how barren the water looks, they are always there, 


Very true, Andrew. In the old braids, you could see into much of the water from the car park bank and while I have reasonable fish-spotting skills I'd often think there were none there. 
But there was almost always a Rastafarian local who would cross the shallow braid and spend the day alternatively fishing, and chilling/smoking. As he said, it was hard to see the pods of fish, but they were there, and the good catches we had proved it.


Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 2:29pm
Was discussing this the other day with Dan. I don't often use a net on the Tongariro but I really should! I'm guilty of hand-lining the fish in once the indicator gets to the eye then hand-grabbing. But I sometimes wind the indicator through the eye as I use indicators probably half the size of the shop versions and on dacron, not clips. Link to tying them below. But if a fish bolts, you can loose it... and your eye!



The issue is when you try to grab the leader if you look at your rod, you'll likely be point-loading the rod, Dan did this on Saturday just as we were finishing up, he was using a 5wt Sage ONE, point loaded it when trying to grab the leader and snapped it like a twig! I have it all on video, it's quite funny to watch so will try and upload it. The ONE is an absolutley beautiful rod, but not sure the wee 9' 5wt is Tongariro material! I did tell him he'd break it! Wink


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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 3:49pm
Dont expect to have the place to myself - thats for sure. Would be nice. Bringing the boat for a bit of Delta action as well so keeping bases covered. Looks like a bit of weather arriving all next week to keep the flow going!


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 4:37pm
Here's the Tongariro hand lining clip I was talking about -  I think it's a guy called Shane who was a guide in the area. It's not clear if the hook pulls or the leader snaps, but either way (at the 8 minute mark) that fish is goneburger as a result of handlining. It's not clear why the call was made to handline the last bit, beaching may have been the better call with plenty of back room. 
Either way, that's what keeps us going back for more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7j-ZJwsrlY



Posted By: JW
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 4:58pm
Top quality. Nice filming and editing too. What camera are you using on land?


Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 9:09pm
A work colleague of mine had a ball at the Delta last week Russell, fish up to 7.5lb and in prime condition, fishing globugs on shooting heads.

JW, camera is a Canon G3X, is basically a small point and shoot, but with a bigger 1" sensor and massive 600mm optical zoom, but the real reason I love it is it's weather sealed! I have used it in pouring rain with no issues, probably the most versatile fishing camera out there as a balance between stills and video, but the auto focus can be a bit touch and go in low light. Has a flip up selfie screen as well, so perfect for framing a shot solo.

Andrew


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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 10:01am
Thanks Andrew - just good to have options when busy. This far off weather looks all over the place but that can be good too - must be positive!



Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 12:42pm
some awesome fish in there at the moment





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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 2:53pm
Classic steelheads. Nice work.

Do you guys think the main runs are happening now, or will there still be significant runs into the Sept/Oct period as has been the recent trend?


Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 3:03pm
Nice fish Nick, yes, agree, bit better on last years class, but also got some stonkers last year as well, so who knows, are you swinging - must give it a go some day!

I still think the  best runs are later, around October - November, should be sensational fishing then I'm picking if the last few years are anything to go by. That is certainly the time for "numbers", but you will get a few spawned fish among them as well. My fav time to fish the river along with high summer.


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Posted By: Chad51
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 4:30pm
Some chunky looking fish there.

Coming from someone who fishes there at least once a month all through the year I'd have to agree with Andrew...the big numbers are usually around late September through to November. But who knows...I had big numbers last weekend. A lot more than this time last year. 

I've found the fishing to be pretty good since March this year to be honest. I love fishing it late summer. Using lighter dry fly/nymph combos casting to actively feeding fish. Plus there were some massive browns this year around that time. 


Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 5:36pm
Some brilliant footage there Andrew, your really taking it to the next level!


Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2017 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by flyfisher flyfisher wrote:


I still think the  best runs are later, around October - November, should be sensational fishing then I'm picking if the last few years are anything to go by.

Good to hear guys. I'm hoping to do a longer trip then. I'm not against egg flies, but I like the fact that caddis grubs are usually successful in the spring runs, as the fish seem to tune into the naturals which start moving around in greater numbers at that time. I've cleaned a few fish with lots of the free living ones in their guts.
As you say, i get a few post-spawners among the fresh fish.


Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 9:36am
I made a submission a few years ago to allow that putty indicator to be used as you can make it slim enough to wind through the eyes and so can use a net. They thought I was a nutter...could be right!

I got a Tongariro rainbow with a fist full of olive coloured caddis in it's stomach - some still alive!


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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 11:10am
At times even fish at the Delta have been full of caddis - especially after a big fresh.



Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 2:40pm
Wow, that's amazing Russell. And Fishb8, sounds like the ones I've got. Browns and rainbows. Just shows that they do tune into natural feed at times.

The late fly fishing author John Parsons, who loved the Tongariro, said that free living caddis - which is coloured a grubby light olive with darker head region on the Tongariro - is the dominant larval insect on the river.
He wrote about seeing heaps of them in flood pools as the river receded, and devoted a chapter of his fly tying book to an imitation of it.
Obviously a small Hare & Copper and the like do a good job of that general grubby look, and is probably all you need when not tossing an egg, but I get a kick out of using a specialist caddis grub imitation.


Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 8:25pm
Dan uses a Green Caddis almost exclusively as a bomb with a nice big black tungsten bead head, the actual fly is quite small, it's a really dull whitish green, almost the colour of a "snifter"! Superb looking fly. I just use a copper wrapped bomb with a black tungsten bead head as I can't be arsed tying anything else these days!

We also got a few on naturals as well as the glo bugs, but this time of year a small #16 Glo bug is a pretty reliable bet, I still think fish take them out of curiosity morseso than a food item, could be wrong, who knows, but they do work. One thing I hate is offset shank hooks up there though, they always seem to promote a twist in your leader.


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Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2017 at 11:10pm
Interesting. I've wondered about using two caddis bugs at once - one a little bigger with black tungsten, and one much lighter. I will give it a try.

Years ago I found in Sporting Life - I think - a light tan/olive dubbing which exactly matches the abdomen colour of the natural grubs when the dubbing is wet. Sitting side by side with a natural it's hard to tell them apart. The dubbing was made by a US company called Scintilla, now out of production. When i realised they'd shut down, I bought up as much of the grub colour as I could find online, because I'd had so much success with it.
I'm sure a little Pheasant Tail or H&C would do as much damage. But I've got confidence in the little caddis bug and enjoy having a bit of Parsons inspiration when I hit the water.



Posted By: Snuffit.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 9:49am
Originally posted by flyfisher flyfisher wrote:

Nice fish Nick, yes, agree, bit better on last years class, but also got some stonkers last year as well, so who knows, are you swinging - must give it a go some day!


To be fair I really didn't know what I was doing last year (started swinging using 2 hander then) so any fish caught was a minor miracle!!! But I didn't catch anything over maybe 3lb so am really pleased at the quality of this year's fish, fat, fit and strong.  


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