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    Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 11:55pm
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Hi All Fishos
On another site I saw a discussion about how to join Braid to Mono/fluorocarbon and decided to show the world my easier and faster way to tie a FG knot to join braid to mono. So I got out my gopro and made this video to show how. Thought I would post it here if you are interested.

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Thanks - very clear - like way you hold in mouth as I have found braid tends to slip out - simple and obvious once shown. 
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Nice work G.

An alternative to holding the braid in your mouth is to tie a loop that you put over the reel handle to tension the braid between the rod tip and the handle. You don't want too much tension though or it will cut through your leader. It's an easy knot to tie. After two wraps each side I pull on both sides of the leader to keep everything nice and even. GSpot doesn't need to do that though, he's got it sussed.


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Hi smudge. I was just shown the loop over handle trick and looks like a good way.
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Very similar principle to what I do.... far easier and far better set knot if the braid and trace is  tight thtough out tieing the knot.
Rod in holder brake on  thats 1 hand.
The trace.. leave on the reel.. drop on the floor, put your foot on it.

I loop the braid around a thumb, rather than hold in the mouth... started using teeth to hold but tieing the knot up closer to ones face... espec if over 45 yrs old and ones short distance is getting fuzzy... far easier lower and further out from the body... also far better balance when doing in a boat.

Then with ones free hand like him.. just turn the trace thru, .. every 6 to 8 turns, give a quick short pull to keep the turns set... keeping all ends tight, this becomes less critical, and easier to set each group of twists.

When testing , I have found.. like finishing off a bimmini.. the final 1/2 hitches/ loop knots dont add strength, they just stop the knot undoing due to cutting the tag off real short... each one of these must be pulled up tight as they are tied.
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I'm with Smudge as regards using the reel handle to maintain the tension.  Not everyone has good "close-in" vision (as Steps has said) and then there are those of us older folks who wear false teeth - so biting down on the line becomes problematic due to the lack of "feel" .......
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Didnt give the false teeth thing a thought OF.. damn good point... still have (most) of my own teeth.. majority of the mercury filled by dental nurses 'practising ' where no holes where... have now gone or going.

Using the handle... definitely worth looking at....
Its little suggestions things like that, from tieing knots to efficiently filleting a fish that make the difference.
Eg ppl who started at the tail and cut the skin up to the head, started with that cut closer and cut smoother... never got the hang of it, untill after  a day out with a member from here ... sharing a few methods, told be to stick the knife in at the base of the fins above the tail... not at the tail.
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This is a very good post from GSpot and all the contributors - thank you all!

I will copy it into the Newbies Forum also. IMO there are two classic knots for mono, the uniknot and the clinch knot. In years to come someone will say the same about the FG knot, for a 'special knot' (braid mainline to mono/fluorocarbon trace is what it's for) it's a real gem.


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Gee you guys not learnt to put a screw hook on the boat so you can do the same thing but with a small loop that hooks over the hook and tension is maintained constant and easy with out bleeding gums :P 
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In years to come someone will say the same about the FG knot, for a 'special knot' (braid mainline to mono/fluorocarbon trace is what it's for) it's a real gem.

I think its nearly already here.. At 1st it was difficult to tie on a boat in the original method  as per Big Angry fish type method....same for the bimimi
Now with ppl playing around experimenting, both have become quick easy and very manageable on a boat, and a little practice , damn near eyes closed.
The  'competition' knots like albright, yauka(?), bristol, dont match upto the strength.. but tend to be far more simple, espec the latter 2. And if want to get them stronger, means either a double albright or the latter 2 with doubled line 1st tied with a bimini anyway... Even then all have a larger profil, single or double tied when going thru the rod eyes.

The down side to knots like PR is having to carry  a bobbin.. the carrying and using are not an issue, Its when the bobbin or small tools are put down, forgotten about.. hit a wave and they jump into those lost places never to be found when needed... adding to tieing time, inconvenience , stress etc.
PR is an excellent knot one to be tied  when prep ing the reels before going out.
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Systems are wonderful things Steps, I have yet to lose a PR Bobbin off the boat, I have however left it at home after prepping in the Garage the night before..
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The FG is the best knot for joining braid to mono/fluro, Though it did annoy me when first started tying, i found after repeated casting the finish knot would come undone,then one by one the half hitchs would come loose, and i lost a few fish/lures/leaders.
Here was my solution,
1) when doing last 2 half hitches leave then loose with about a 50c size loop
2) make the finish knot but do 5/6 turns through
3) pass the tag end through the 2 loose half hitches,
4) carefully tighten the 2 half hitches, leaving you with what looks like an unfinished uni knot
5) the tricky bit(unless you tie flies, or make rods), now wip the line coming from the last half hitch, around the main line the opposite direction to what the tag end went in step 2)
6) Wet! The loop left, then draw down by pulling the tag end slowly to finish the wip
7) tie a half hitch in tag as close to the main knot as possible, cut a 2mm tag, then with a lighter carefully melt tag down to half hitch to prevent any chance of tag being drawn back through main knot, done.
I have no idea if anyone has done something similar, but I've not named it, and its never let me down yet Wink
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I have played eith the finish 1/2 hitches.. when 1st started, like u tieing these 'woven' type knots  FG bimini.. had trouble with the finish 1/2 hitches laying small and looping.
Them someone mentioned to tie opposite directions...still had some issues....even messed around finishing with a clove hitch ...
Then someone else mentioned to pull each 1/2 hitch up tight... and the give a good jerk.....never had any issues after that.
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nice, another good variation.
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Nice. thanks for this 
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finish the fg with a rizzuto knot, doesnt come undone thenWink
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I tie mine with the braid attached to the base of the lowest guide. I don't put it in the holder it moves around to much for me. I trap the butt on the deck with my foot. Could have a tube mounted for the butt that's a snug fit but it never happens.


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