Plonker and beer...........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think he did bad things to that marlin? ahhhh well, wouldnt expect anything less from the Dodgey Bro's
agree with Dustin entirely!!!
my dacron loops , they hold well with big lures , they are easily adjustable. And with blacks clips they work fantastic, There is no damage to the mainline.
Its also easy to "breakout" the clip as well from the rigger upon retrieval.No problem if your into teasing fish.
Dont like roller trollers, springy outriggers,single halyards, hard drag, soft drag,straightbutt chair rods, 9 knots trollspeed, portiphino transoms, 5 plus rods out, 35knots of wind and no beer
Anytime Kerran , no problem. well done on this website, I really enjoy it
Quote: Originally posted by Bender on 24 May 2005
It was a great gamefishing season but also quite a difficult one, given the large number of fish hooked and lost.
I wondered if the trolling drag settings had anything to do with it? What settings are people using - both full strike drag and trolling drag? Are they measurable, i.e. 2kg, 3kg, 4kg or whatever?
I'll start the ball rolling. We had the 24kg rods set on 7kg maximum strike drag. We trolled with just enough drag pressure to stop the lures dragging line out (number two on the Penn VSW 50s but not sure what that equates to in kgs of drag).
One strike, one marlin.
<SCRIPT language=javascript>postamble(); Bender, I've never game fished (but will eventually one day ). I have read Bill Hall's Marlin Fishing book though and I do recall that he mentioned his hook up rate improved significantly when his trolling drag was set as light as possible- i.e. just light enough to stop lures dragging out. He was also a covert to single hook rig too, which I also recall increased his hook up rate for his style of trolling.
Bluey, you won't have problems with dacron loops fouling in the guides if you're using windon or bigfoot rollers... but on 50 and 30 lb class rods with smaller rollers and (especially) smaller roller tips it could be a problem. You might have to run your line straight through the roller trollers with those. (I don't mind roller trollers, especially with smaller lures- but I don't like using them with dacron or powergum loops as much as blacks clips because the roller section is bulkier and more cumbersome to snap through the loop than the pin of a Black's clip, plus you need to make the loops in your dacron or powergum bigger to accomodate).
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Kerren we need to see some of this footage, whilst fishing the Canaries a week or so ago I was able to look over the underwater footage taken off Ghana again, and it would be really cool to compare how striped marlin react to a lure compared to blues.
Mate given that you had the opportunity to video limitless numbers of striped marlin, it would have been really interesting to film them attacking (A) hookless lures, and (B) hooked lures on heavier strike drag too. Just as a comparison? Maybe next time, you lucky sod?
btw - no matter how you're playing the strike drag game - if you see that bill wagging behind your lure but for some reason he just can't seem to eat it - give it to him with the rod/reel or slow the boat and let him catch it - this really does work! If I see a fish behind lure I'll normally just wait as quite often they will attack and get hooked by themselves, if he's behaving lazily you might want to take a couple of cranks on the reel and try and fire him up - but if they are clearly all over the lure but just can't seem to catch it, just try giving it to him. Once you see him take the lure and turn, wind tight and hopefully he'll be on. But if he's not, wind the lure back in position and hold your course, odds are he will come back and try again. Don't be too quick to give up on a missed shot. In the Atlantic we fish blue marlin and white marlin which are like a miniature version of your stripeys - blues are the most likely to be crash bang one hit wonders (but even so you can definitely pull off a second or third shot on them sometimes) but whiteys seem to stay on a lure a lot longer and will often give you multiple shots until you either hook them up or they finally get spooked.
Dusty....
The footage will become available to the international audience in due course.....more on exactly how that will happen in a press release....like you say this "stuff" is not only entertaining but also educational....lovely.
"Mate given that you had the opportunity to video limitless numbers of striped marlin, it would have been really interesting to film them attacking (A) hookless lures, and (B) hooked lures on heavier strike drag too. Just as a comparison? Maybe next time, you lucky sod? "
There was a certain amount of trialing different "types" of bites mate....hookless teasers, pitch baits, armed lures.....etc etc
We compared the footage from Ghana to the stuff we shot and of course we are bias or perhaps it was the share numbers we captured, but the footage has a cleaner more exciting feel to it in my opinion.
Quote: Originally posted by dustin on 30 May 2005
(I don't mind roller trollers, especially with smaller lures- but I don't like using them with dacron or powergum loops as much as blacks clips because the roller section is bulkier and more cumbersome to snap through the loop than the pin of a Black's clip, plus you need to make the loops in your dacron or powergum bigger to accomodate).
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Not really Dustin. They have to be a bit bigger but not to make the sort of difference you are inferring. Theoretically the loop for a Black's could be 3mm diam - obviously absurd, but you get my drift. At the beginning of last season I inadvertantly made a PG loop for a roller troller a bit smaller than I had intended (about 12mm diam) but it works like a Swiss watch. I now make them all that size. I, as you know, run pedominantly 50lb gear and none of my rods has oversize tip rollers - no problem.
Talk about antithesis. I'm looking out the window at quite possibly the worst most foul @sred weather ever and here I find Obie, cosy and warm in his on little virtual niche of bluewater heaven, tackle talkin'. Good on ya mate.
No golf today then?
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