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    Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 7:10am
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 I have discovered some reel corrosion deep inside my Penn gold 50Ws – around mid 90s era. Wasn’t there when I had them spooled on mono.  I am using hollow dacron, which drags in salt water. They get hosed down after every use, but I doubt that does anything for the deep down salt. I am totally sold on the dacron, but nothing is perfect – there has to be a catch – right? So I want to deal with the issue but am short on strategy. The simple approach would be to wind on to a tension spool, repair reel and wind back on under tension.  I have 700m approx. on each reel (x5). But I would like, if possible, to be able to wash (and dry) the line first. I am not sure if this will have any effect? Maybe next use will just pack salt deep down in the reel again? Anyone had to deal with this issue? To complicate the issue, I guess while I have the line off I should reverse it – been on about 4 yrs. I guess the new Penn Squall 50w (composite) deals with this issue. But at this point I am still married to my trusty gold 50Ws and hollow dacron.

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Use some chapstick, or canuba wax to coat the reel abour before you respool the dacron back on. It will create a barrier to reduce the amount of salt sitting on the reel abour
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As above Alan. Coat spool with canuba wax.
How old is your dacron? most dacron do have a wax coating now so dont absorb water like they used to years ago but salt definately does get inside the dacron.
I just give mine reels a good wash down with warm water after each day but with a topshot of 200-300m of mono i dont think the water would penetrate that far down the spool to wash out salt water deposits. I Test my dacron every time i redo topshots and surprising that they have only dropped 10% breaking strain in 6-8 years. Was 37kg, now 32-33kg BS

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I use a smear of Lanocote or even the spray on variety works pretty well too.
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Thanks guys - I had Lanocote in mind - but just a guess on my part.The wax may be more durable - but I will definitely coat the spool - didn't do previously.
Kaveman - mine is about 4 yrs old.
Any thoughts on trying to wash it while off the spool? The problem with that is I will probably have 700m of loose dacron, and not on a spool come re-spool time. Could be problematic. Worth it? Do you guys wash the stuff?
I only run 50m 80lb topshot mono - which I change each yr. So that won't keep much salt out. My dacron is in the water every time a fish is on.
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Everyone who commented on this subject is onto it.
What there saying is protect the spool, wax, lanolin or marine grease.
Stay away from products that aren't natural.
You may also improve your your odds by using less absorbent line like hollow core.
Could be an advantage there.
Also as a yearly maintenance, take all the line off, re grease so to say and soak and dry line.
Or just replace the line you use.
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Colonite insulator wax is my favourite. 
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Where would you find the Colonite, or Canuba wax? Sounds like wax is the way.
Mattoo - it is hollow core. But looks like I have been remiss -  no coating on spool, and have not removed line for r&m. My bad. So looks like I should be washing it too. Bit of a process - but all these things come with some price to pay.
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If you feel inclined to wash the Dacron, find an appropriate sized spool onto which the line will fit. Use a battery drill and large bolt washers and nuts ....and wind the line off the reel, this will mean the line that was at the bottom of the reel is now on top of the spool. 
 Place the spool in a bucket of water with a brick on it for as long as you like.
 Address any corrosion on the spool carefully, coating exposed aluminium with a dab of clear nail varnish, allow to dry and then use your preferred barrier on the arbour, ie canuba wax etc...  attempt to dry the line before respooling the line, a dehumidifier in a small room, leave the spool in a room with the airconditioning on for a few days etc, re spool and have at it
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Good advice - thanks. looks like it will be a slow process. But I have 5 and generally only using 3. So I can cycle my way thru them. 
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There's a crowd called Swifty that makes these spool sets especially for washing spectra.

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Thank you. Good info. I am back in NZ this w/end for a few weeks. Will chase it up. Have spare space in my return suitcase right now. You would not believe what comes back with me. Virtually zero clothes. Fishing bits - crimps/hooks/mono/lures/reels, bits for chainsaw/lawnmower/ute/outboard/house (3000 roofing washers this time). 'Out of stock' is a common phrase here. But my bag will have space for a spool or two.
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Ask I reflect on this conversation I realise the down falls.

Titahi is on to it. But I think the underlying issue here is ourselves.

I'm a stickler for maintenance, but still feel that err to doing it until I'm in the process and then find satisfaction in the result as I realise the value of my efforts.
It is also the time that I strip all my reels and rods and rebuild. I'm always amazed at what I find even though I thought I'd had put in preventative maintenance.

I think that what I'm saying is that we spend good money on our tools and we spend an enormous amount of time and cash trying to catch our quarry.
Even the smallest things can fail and be the detriment to our season, we curse ourselves for our lack of maintenance on our tools.

I'm just saying what many have before us, that our opportunities are slim and the loss or failure of gear can be the lifetime opportunity lost but we err as humans to be blaize

We are lazy, but if we want to be winners we just have to bite the bullet and do the mundane.
We do receive value from this, we gain knowledge and confidence in our gear.

I for one like to catch the fish of a lifetime,
So I will continue to push myself to do the mundane to reward myself the prize.
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Mattoo, I totally agree. I do everything that I think I need to do. If a knot looks 'not quite right' I do it again. Close enough is not good enough. These big fish will find the weak link. Every time. There can be none. I was shocked to see corrosion down in the reel as line was screaming off, flicking bits of crap off the reel. I was unaware that I should have put a protective coating on the spool. So now more maintenance in the schedule. I put these things on a list for the windy days/sometimes weeks I can't get out. It is just a matter of having a regime that works. And sticking to it. I just bought a label printer and now have stickers on the reels with the dates I have changed the topshot. So I know, and to make me do it regular. Looks like peeling the line off is going to be an annual job too.
I lost a marlin the day after landing the Y/F. Broken top shot. First broken line in 4-5 yrs since switching to the current set up (line/terminal end etc). I am gutted - mainly over the broken line (and lost lure). The fish was going back anyway. I still ponder why it broke - not at the terminal/swivel. I do suspect there were two fish after the lure tho - a bigger one seemed to scream in from the side after a smaller one had first crack. Wondering if the main line took a hit during that. There was a bit of chaff/rasp just above the break. But you can leave nothing to chance. Totally agree. If you have a weak link, they will find it. And the hrs spent chasing these fish, not worth leaving something to chance. part of the game.
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Alan,
You get it.

Gamefishing, or fishing successfully relies on our tools, our intellect and our committment to our goal.

Gamefishing is a hard task of our ability to be durable.
We spend hours trying to be successful, and this can either be a brief and dissapointing result or an immensely rewarding achievement.

It is unlike other coastal fishing where a result is generally expected and often achieved.

We can only hope that conversations like these are read by others, understood and implemented.

However our very human nature means that for most we will fail, before we decide we need to do better.

Such is life.
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Agree completely. I have spent decades trout fishing and saltwater fishing. Enjoy them both. Came to gamefishing late (last 5-6 yrs). It is the challenge that interests me. It is my focus now - above all other fishing. They are always up for it. You get skunked some days - and they deserved to win. They test you to the limit.  And when you win, it is well deserved and satisfying. I didn't mind loosing the last marlin - they are entitled to their day. But I do take a gear failure personally. And will think long and hard about what I could have done better. There is the challenge.
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Originally posted by Bigfishbob Bigfishbob wrote:

There's a crowd called Swifty that makes these spool sets especially for washing spectra.

They look like the business. Another addition to my pile of fishing essentials :-)
I don't seem to be getting any Google hits for NZ. Any idea if they are stocked in NZ?
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

Originally posted by Bigfishbob Bigfishbob wrote:

There's a crowd called Swifty that makes these spool sets especially for washing spectra.

They look like the business. Another addition to my pile of fishing essentials :-)
I don't seem to be getting any Google hits for NZ. Any idea if they are stocked in NZ?
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Nah they seem like a southern California thing, I'm not even sure you can get them there any more, now I have looked harder. I have the spool halves only but not the cage for washing. Try Charkbait or Meltons in California.
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Will do. If that doesn't work, I will try and invent something. Basically need something the water can penetrate right through. I guess drilling out a regular line spool may do - but their design looked good.
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

Will do. If that doesn't work, I will try and invent something. Basically need something the water can penetrate right through. I guess drilling out a regular line spool may do - but their design looked good.
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Nothing that a Plastic bulk line spool and a hole saw wouldn't fix.
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