Make The Taupo Fishery the 13th Fish and Game Reg

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interesting to understand the system.  Looking at buying 1 year license for Lake Taupo Trout - $90 and one year boat ramp permit (harbourmaster) $90.
 
Would love to see all that go into management of lake....
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I still don't think you have answered the question of why would F&G want taupo and what would they gain from it?
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Originally posted by flyfisher flyfisher wrote:

Needs to be done and makes perfect sense, the doc Taupo management was always the "odd child" on the NZ freshwater scene... while they are at it, lump Rotoaira under the same umbrella, that's a mess of a mis-managed fishery!
Rotoaira is a different kettle of fish (excuse the pun).
Back in the 19th century when trout were introduced into Lake Taupo, the introduced trout ate all the local fish - a major food source for Maori. The local iwi, asked that no trout to be released into Lake Rotoaira...but someone did. As mitigation, Tuwharetoa were given ownership/control of the lake.

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Maybe Fish and Game would do a better job of managing the fishery. Probably the main thing that Fish and Game have going for them is that they are accountable to anglers because they are elected by their constituency.

However, it is clear that Taupo region requires a lot more management than other regions and DOC staff do a lot in terms of track maintenance, license checks and surveys, fish population monitoring, etc. There would need to be sufficient revenue generated to continue to do these things. If F&G took over the only additional revenue that they would get would be the license fees of those that only fish Taupo, which I suggest is a fraction of the current Taupo license sales. Some modelling would be required to see if this is enough to pay for the costs.

Perhaps there could be an option to add a "Taupo supplement" to F&G licenses for those who also want to fish Taupo. Could be an extra $25 per season. Those who only want to fish Taupo could be accommodated in the existing "local area only" category in the F&G licenses?
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Alan has gone quiet, I'm not surprised considering the holes in his poorly thought through idea
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What is there that needs a management? It's a completely wild fishery, we keep being told. Aside from keeping the hatchery going, whatever that does for a wild fishery, and keep Rangers in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed, where does the money go, and why would F&G take on additional responsible for no additional income.
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Do smolt still get released in the lake?
I remember a few times over 10 years ago when they were released into the lake by the boating club at S end of lake.
Undeliverable/wanted for some other region.

Where does the Auckland/Waikato region get their trout stocks from?
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Originally posted by Fishb8 Fishb8 wrote:



Where does the Auckland/Waikato region get their trout stocks from?

Eastern Region has a thriving business in trout rearing/sales. That's partly why they are able to employ a veritable contingent of fields staff compared to say A/W which has one fisheries guy for the whole region... and that's where A/W get their fish from.
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Pointless discussion as Ngāti Tūwharetoa position has not yet been sorted out.    

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Originally posted by Rainbow Rainbow wrote:

Pointless discussion as Ngāti Tūwharetoa position has not yet been sorted out.    

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Nor has the F&G position
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"Rotoaira is a different kettle of fish (excuse the pun).
Back in the 19th century when trout were introduced into Lake Taupo, the introduced trout ate all the local fish - a major food source for Maori. The local iwi, asked that no trout to be released into Lake Rotoaira...but someone did. As mitigation, Tuwharetoa were given ownership/control of the lake."


Interesting, never knew that.
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