Cheap topwater reel for kingfish

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Hi there everyone. I have been watching a few videos and want to start top water fishing for kingfish. I have a okuma abf 80b baitrunner spooled with 15kg mono would this be sufficient for smaller kings? If not what would be a good cheaper reel for kingfish (under $250)
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I'm not sure what they cost but what about the Daiwa BG ?
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I reckon Spheros SW should be good,10000 size should be good for harbour kings。
just fyi:
http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lists.html
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daiwa bg5000 would be good, only 10kg drag but through a long rod thats all you need. 

The okuma you have would be good for entry level kingies and occasional ones upto 15-20 kgs, but I would recommend  Braid for fishing topwater lures, 50-65lb should be enough. 
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Yeah the only reason I didn't put braid on at the time was because I didn't want to risk wrecking the reel as it was so cheap
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I have an Okuma Salina and have caught enough kings to 15kgs to vouch for its use and also caught a 25kg GT on it from Autitaki. Dollar wise would fit your budget. ANother one worth looking at would be the Opus Bull.
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Originally posted by jonocoogee jonocoogee wrote:

daiwa bg5000 would be good, only 10kg drag but through a long rod thats all you need. 


I can vouch for the BG 5000 for harbour kingies. I was a bit concerned about the 10kg drag but after advice on here I went with that, and have landed nice fish using 50lb braid (over clean bottom). Lovely smooth reel.

You can get it for about $260 online in NZ, or you could consider getting it from the very reliable Anglers Warehouse online in Australia for less than NZ$200 (landed in NZ) and use the balance to buy a nice lure or two.
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Okuma Azores.

This is a complete no-brainer, with them being dumped for $149 here:
http://www.fullonfishing.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p4189.html

Perfectly capable reel.
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149 for the azores is well worth it!
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Would the Azores 55 or 65 be comparable to a Shimano 10000 reel?
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Originally posted by straks007 straks007 wrote:

Would the Azores 55 or 65 be comparable to a Shimano 10000 reel?

Size-wise the 65 is pretty similar to a Spheros/Saragosa 10000. The Okuma is marginally heavier, if you believe both companies published stats. The Okuma is rated for 20kg of drag vs the Shimano's 15kg; again unsure of the truth in either but both are plenty for fishing 50lb braid. The Okuma is a tiny bit faster.
The Okuma has a LOT of metal in it; the rotor, frame and sideplate.
The Shimanos have a composite rotor and frame, only the sideplate is aluminium.
The Shimanos (I'm prettttty sure) have carbon drag washers, the Okuma has felt washers on top and carbon under the spool.
The Okuma is obviously cheaper; the Shimano is likely to have better local support (although Okuma has come a long way in that regard).

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What about a fin nor offshore 9500? There pretty cheap on eBay around $180 or would that size be a bit big for casting?
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yeah man the finnors ar a very relibl reel and more tan u to the job of catching kinies but theyre big and heavy so not much fun to cat with all day although im sure some people do 

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Mate I dunno if you bought anything yet but definitely go high retrieve, high drag, all day. And remember using it for topwater will eat a cheap reel quickly if not cared for correctly. I bought a Stella 14000 then went back to my thunnus 8000 the other day as i was getting the Stella serviced. I was amazed at the difference going backwards. The thunnus I had used for about 3 years prior got smoked, more markedly, and the amount of winding was very very noticeable.
Don’t let anyone tell you 15kgs is all the drag you need. I listened to multiple convos and found that theory to be subjective opinion. You can do with less drag sure, but when you get that one monster that thing will melt. (Not literally).Crank that **** up!
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Nah I haven't bought anything yet but honestly don't know what to go for the fin nor with its huge drag or the okuma Azores being a bit smaller with a faster retrieve.
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Maybe take a look at the new Penn Slammer ||| H in 6500 or 8500 not overly expensive, strong gears, big smooth drag stacks.
Might be an option IMO
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Pete the penn is what I'm looking at for a light set up for Tauranga harbour
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you'll build some good muscles with the finnor offshore 9500, its heavy and a bit clunky but built like a brick with some good power. might be better looking at the 7500 instead if you want to go that route, its smaller, lighter, same drag.
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Fin Nor FBS 80, mint, $100 plus post?
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I bought a Okuma Azores SW from a guy on Trade Me for $190. It blue and silwer. 65 model. Use it the other day and caught a 26 kg yellow fin tuna with it. Spooled with 50 lb braid. It cheap but done the job for me.

Don't be fooled by the " you need 25kg of drag" stuff. Most of the time you not even using 10 kg of drag. It more likely 6 to 8 kg of drag.
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