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    Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 2:49pm
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Have a Penn Spinfisher V SSV8500 reel. Looking for a suitable rod to go with it. A novice in fishing so please explain why the rod you are offering is a good compatible rod for that reel. 

Planning to fish off rocks and start with the smaller fishes. 

Any tips will be much appreciated. 

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http://www.fullonfishing.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p1913_Okuma_X_Factor_8_ft_6_10-15kg_Spin_Rod.html

For the price you won't find much better than that, very good bang for buck. Ideal for stray lining off the rocks or even casting out a sinker/ledger rig.

If you're planning on surfcasting as well maybe have a look at something more like 10-12 feet as it will give you a bit of extra distance.

Also have a read through the walkabout forum, plenty of threads discussing rods for rock fishing in there
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Thanks so much Pico, that's very helpful. What specifications did you look at on the reel to decide what sort of rod/rod specifications to buy?

Not looking at surfcasting at the moment. 

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Hi there,

Here are the specs for your reel, if you don't have them:

Model Spinfisher SSV 8500
Gear Ratio 4.7:1
Maximum Drag 35lb
Line Capacity Mono 300yds 30lb
Weight 893gm 

I won't attempt to speak for Pico, but that reel is at the very heavy end of the spinning reel family, designed for use with a relatively high breaking strain line such as 15kg (approx 30lb). So, given balance is usually a good thing in a rod and reel combo, you'd normally match it with a solid stick like the one he has recommended. I got that same rod on sale at Rebel Sport a couple of years ago, and it's excellent - a composite, so not as fragile as pure graphite, which can be helpful in the harsh environment of rock fishing. 
A Shimano Backbone Elite rod in an equivalent line weight rating would be a reasonable alternative.

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Thanks The Tamure Kid for explaining.

I have the specs, but just wondering what specs you look at (and how to interpret those specs) to match a reel with a rod. That analysis was helpful. 

I will go grab that rod based on both your recommendations :) 

I am thinking of getting another beginner rod for my partner. Is there something versatile (for rock or land based fishing) and value for money you would recommend?

Happy ANZAC day guys!
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AT the entry level, I've always had good service from Ugly Stik rods. They come in a wide range of sizes and line weights and are just about unbreakable - unlike a lot of the more fragile graphite rods. The Ugly Stik Black Tiger is quite versatile, but a little shorter than many would use off the rocks at about 7 foot.
Daiwa VIP is another classic range and not too expensive.

For the rocks, something in the 10-15kg rating is good, usually to match with a solid spinning reel with 10kg nylon - which is more forgiving in the rocky terrain than braid.
As was mentioned, the longer the rod the better for distance casting from the shore, but rock rods tend to be shorter than beach fishing rods. And off the rocks, you are often fishing unweighted or lightly weighted baits into a berley trail, so rather than trying to cast for miles you are aiming to just lob a bait out.
If you are wanting to fish places where you want to cast a long way out over sand using sinkers, then a long rod is probably the way to go.

To save a lot of effort, I'd go into a specialist fishing shop and ask for a good value rock combo to suit the type of fishing you want to do. they will be able to load the reel with nylon for you, nice and tight off a bulk spool.


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Thank you, that was super helpful.

Would you recommend any fishing shop in the Auckland area that has fairly priced stuff and expertise?

Is there any forgiving rock-ish areas in the Auckland area that a beginner can start with? Also another beginner question: can we use rock fishing rods for fishing off quays/piers etc? I assume so but just wanted to be sure.

Thanks.
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plenty of info here:

http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/the-auckland-rock-fishing-guide_topic63590.html


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Purely from my personal experience:
Go Fish, Takapuna
Big Fish, Pakuranga
Yeehaa, Panmure (I've only shopped there for squid fishing gear, though).
These are owner-operated shops where you get great service.

Chains: Top Catch, Smart Marine (at Westhaven, ask for Johnny), Hunting & Fishing. There are branches across the region. 
I'm sure others will have recommendations, but that's where i've bought gear in addition to online purchases.

Yip, rock gear will be usable off wharves etc. 
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A second hand "kilwell rocky"10-15kg is still as awesome as it ever was.
Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens.
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