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    Posted: 24 Mar 2016 at 10:04pm
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$26 million of wasted tax payers money for a result everyone told him well in advance ..
 
To bloody miserable and worry about paying off Commercial interests  for a $2.00 Fishing park in The H/G
 
Money was not wisely spent ...I know this isn't fishing related but it could of gone along way spent in another area.
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Totally agree. Coastguard---very underfunded,St Johns--Underfunded. Some medicines critical to some --too expensive, and many many more examples.
Ego trip--yes. Wise spending no.
$ 25+ million for a country with rapidly declining export  income,potentially heading toward Bankruptcy.
On this could literally say Key is a loser. Was told but wouldnt listen
Wonder what the next diversion,division maker will be.

Money is gone now--$25 million--flagged away never to be seen again.
Another few  digits onto national debt.
Next generation will pay for it.

Wonder how the savers feel when the paltry interest on their deposits is taxed,and wasted by a indulgent decadent Government.
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Yeah total waste of money. next time they should just change it without any public consultation...
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Where was the money spent? In NZ or overseas?
If NZ then that's good, it's in circulation, who knows you two serial moaners might get some at some point and benefit from the whole thing.

Looking at the results it's obvious a lot of kiwis want to change it, if you didn't you won, be happy, if you did don't be a sore loser, a fair system was used and the majority won.
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Obviously you  like the new Flag. Shows what bad taste you and other New Zealanders have. Get over it.
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New flag/old flag, either way its still a complete waste of money.
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

Obviously you  like the new Flag. Shows what bad taste you and other New Zealanders have. Get over it.




As usual you're completely wrong.
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

Obviously you and previous poster like the new Flag. Shows what bad taste you and other New Zealanders have. Get over it.

Totally agree. I would of been embarrassed to have such a crap flag, what a ****e design. It looked cheap and looked like it was made as a Corporate logo  flag. Glad the people stayed with the current flag and now we can leave the flag until the day we decide we want to be a republic. 
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the whole thing felt like they were cheating,

we vote to change the flag, = no we don't want to wins hands down.
that should have been the end of it right there,

next they have a competition on designing a flag,
then they have a vote to see which one is best,

then another to choose which of these do you like...
bloody hell talk about ramming it down our throats.

now we have all sorts of people being payed to support it, even get it shoved in our face from all angles,

then we have over a bloody mouth to wait for the voting papers,

started middle of last year sometime, now you tell me, what that advertising company have ripped us all off by.

if the new flag is adopted what is the bet its not legit anyway????

some 10 -15 years latter someone will let it out we all got ripped off anyway.
National are not spending all that money to tell us he lost,
its all about you do as i say.
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The old divide and conquer strategy....worked a doozy at dinner parties. Neh well, have to find something else to rark everyone up with now
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28 million is chicken feed , if labour get in this living wage will cripple us.
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The method was correct, how do you know if you want a change if you don't know what the change is going to be.
 
Bigger issue though, now all the people that voted to retain the union jack flag, will you same people keep waving the flag with the silver fern on it that you same people have decided doesn't represent NZ?
 
Damn straight you two faced ****ers will! Every time you go to the rugby.
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Flag referendum: New Zealand votes to keep current flag

• New Zealand has voted to keep the current flag in the second flag referendum.
• The current flag won by 56.6 per cent to 43.2 per cent
• More than 2.1 million Kiwis voted
• RSA: "The people have spoken"
• Change the Flag campaign: "We accept the majority view"

New Zealand's flag will not change, a referendum has decided.

The existing national flag won 56.6 per cent of the vote, compared to 43.2 per cent for the silver fern flag.

The total number of votes received was 2,124,507 - a turnout of 67.3 per cent.

Of those, just 0.23 per cent were informal votes and 0.21 per cent were invalid votes.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11611333

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we had a flag about 100 yrs ago that looked nothing like the australian it was the United tribes flag.  Whick I still think is the flag we should still have. Still in use at waitangi.
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Originally posted by herby herby wrote:

Where was the money spent? In NZ or overseas?
If NZ then that's good, it's in circulation, who knows you two serial moaners might get some at some point and benefit from the whole thing.

Looking at the results it's obvious a lot of kiwis want to change it, if you didn't you won, be happy, if you did don't be a sore loser, a fair system was used and the majority won.
 
Herby you should give up Diving those nasty fish will be the death of you , if you were meant to be under the water you would have gills ..I hope you didn't harm the fish it may be feeling off colour as well after coming to contact with you .
 
What happened did they gang up and attack you ...Ouch
 
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Edit....I think I will move this to the politics thread, that is where it belongs.


Perhaps the easier way would have been to have a first referendum about whether we SHOULD change the flag, but we didn't, the first refdm was which alternate flag. Funnily enough the red version was more popular than the black version, it certainly looked better I think, then the second refdm between the two options.
As a process, it was fairly good I guess, and the money was a drop in the bucket compared to anything else done by govt, but yes, I think it was a waste of money solely because I like the current flag. I see no mention of herby preferring the new flag cirrus, that was a long bow to draw there.
However, it was a good national discussion, not at all unduly devisive, and far more voted for a change than anyone thought I might add, so perhaps asking the question was not a bad idea either.
The opposition are making smart arse cracks about it all, but both labour and the greens have flag change as part of their policies as well, and if you think they would give the public the option to choose it or not, then you don't know socialist group think very well....they would save the money by choosing some politically correct political banner and simply telling us, "this is it. Get over it".
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$26 mil spent on NZ Post expenses, TVNZ advertising, media and print advertising. All of which provided jobs, were subjected to GST, PAYE, Corporate taxes and stayed in NZ. Not wasted at all.
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