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    Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 11:28am
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I think that you will see a turn around, as the season wears on.
And some significant tag reports.

Its still early.

Numbers seem to be better than other seasons, so the tag rate should increase.

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Fished the Ladies comp out of Whiti on Saturday. There was around a dozen tagged and 3-4 weighed I think. Numbers might be a bit off but not far. 
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Yup agreed. The whole keeping the first fish thing...
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Yep comes up every year. Always tends to balance out toward the end of the season.
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Tag rate will go through the roof the more these light gauge hooks are used. Using them not only massively increases your successful bite to hook up ratio but with proper boat handling techniques also shortens the fight time considerably allowing more healthy releases. My mate is 8-7-7 this year and all have been tagged....
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Really ? the tag rate will go through the roof because useing light gauge hooks shortens the fight time .
God anyone would think the wheel had been re- invented.
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Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Really ? the tag rate will go through the roof because useing light gauge hooks shortens the fight time .
God anyone would think the wheel had been re- invented.
it shortens the fight time when they snapLOLWinkLOL...are you saying therefor, that using traditional heavy gauge hooks lengthens fight time and so anglers that use these hooks will kill more fish rather than tag them...that's a long bow ya got thar bruvva
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Anglers choice always but did notice in last week aussies tag most of their marlin across the ditch. Discussed reason with an Aussie who lives here today and was preturbed by how many fish we take... Sheer coincidence. I said maybe because most of our weigh stations have resident smoker and maybe kiwis have more of taste for smoked fish. Having said that a marlin is a lot of smoked fish and a good kingi is more manageable in your average domestic smoker. Last year at tuts Small boats contest I recall of about 15 fish caught all but 3 were tagged and Pete Saul congratulated us at prize giving on tag ratio for contest. felt good to have tagged one of those.Funny what you remember. Same season we weighed a 67 kg fish for my step daughter because she wanted to keep her first and weigh it with a photo and get smoked fish for her friends from marlin she caught. Was definite highlight for her weighing one and highlight for me tagging one.
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wait till all the charter boats return from the 3kings over the next month,
this is were the biggest jump normally comes from.
there are every year now new guys attempting game fishing and this year is no exception with the amount of smaller fish around making it easy for them to catch one.. 

just let it ride the same discussion pops its head up every year and always the tagged amount is either over or very close to target.
   
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The contest setup for the Nats is good I think,
Way more points tagging a small or average fish than weighing it.
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As the numbers of traditional charter boats, with high tagging rates, diminishes and more smaller boats are game fishing, it's almost certain that the tagging rates will go down
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Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

The contest setup for the Nats is good I think,
Way more points tagging a small or average fish than weighing it.
Yep, 268 marlin were tagged during the Nationals last year.
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Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Really ? the tag rate will go through the roof because useing light gauge hooks shortens the fight time .
God anyone would think the wheel had been re- invented.

My point which was probably not explained enough for the really simple ones is that using the light gauge hooks your strike rate is going to go thru the roof, And with lighter drags used the fish is healthier so more likely to swim away nicely. And if you get almost every fish you hook next to the boat you are more likely to tag because its not the only fish your going to see this season. But you stick to your 12/0 and your narrow minded views mate.
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LOLNow u are claiming to know wot tackle I use .
utter dribble.
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Originally posted by Rockstar from Mars Rockstar from Mars wrote:

Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Really ? the tag rate will go through the roof because useing light gauge hooks shortens the fight time .
God anyone would think the wheel had been re- invented.


My point which was probably not explained enough for the really simple ones is that using the light gauge hooks your strike rate is going to go thru the roof, And with lighter drags used the fish is healthier so more likely to swim away nicely. And if you get almost every fish you hook next to the boat you are more likely to tag because its not the only fish your going to see this season. But you stick to your 12/0 and your narrow minded views mate.

Agree with rockstar but I think he means more hook ups rather than strikes??
We caught Stripey Pinfish for BOI on the 27th Dec. had the wife and son on board. Went 105kg first for us this season.. We're we gonna hang it up.. He'll yeah huge deal for the boy to finally see one on the wharf with his name on the skipper board...he has been battling seasickness and boredom for the last 3 years waiting for that day. Will we kill another one this year. Not intentionally. next time he will get to smack a tag in one I hope.
How many people know someone that has weighed more than one fish other than in a comp in one season. Now that would be an interesting stat.
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I think most first fish for the angler or boat would get killed, its a big deal especially if its been a long time coming.got a mate his first yesterday and boy was he excited .it made my day
funnily enough it was on light gauge hooks and had it to the boat quick the gaff that went in it was heavy gauge tho.
 
I think it was probably my aggressive boat driveing rather than the light gauge hooks that made it a quick exciteing fight.
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Hey Phil, great on your son catching first fish. Congrats to son and dad as skipper. Hope to see you round this year as usual. All best for season sounds like great start for you. You work hard for fish, dredge or not to dredge, aside, you have got us thinking. Plus appologies again for being too lloud in camping ground last year and keeping you serious fishos up... its not really me but my dogey mates combined with rum.
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How many spotties have we all massacred in our time.  I remember when i was 10 'sport fishing' off the local wharf catching as many as i could.  I know what you are thinking, but alas, i got no tag pole for christmas.

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Always released the spotties till I discovered make dam good snapper bait.... Filleted or just heads and guts ... Best fresh dam fine b😆😧Bring on the burbon Simon. Booked the leave for virtually all of March til about 22nd.
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We released 3 last year as we were too far from home but we would have put one in the boot if the time was right.
Got 9 days off Whangaroa in 10 days time to replenish my empty smoked marlin 
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