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    Posted: 24 Apr 2015 at 6:44pm
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Happened to me at speed last weekend, resulting in a man overboard, we were lucky the outcome could have been way worse than it was.
It was like the boat had hit a rock and suddenly spun to the right.
With the impact and G forces involved it's not that easy to stay in the boat or get off the floor to regain control.
 
After this incident there's no way I would be putting rotary steering into any boat I own in the future.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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yeah i had my two sons in the boat couple weeks ago and was wondering when the steering cable was last replaced. scary ****. glad your crew is alright.
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Originally posted by CanadianJohn CanadianJohn wrote:

yeah i had my two sons in the boat couple weeks ago and was wondering when the steering cable was last replaced. scary ****. glad your crew is alright.
 
My boats nearly 4 years old, cable parted at the crimp join, no warning.
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I had one go recently also, when looking into replacement cable was advised they should be replaced every couple of years? Be interesting to see if they break due to age, or number of hours.
Those that say it can't be done are being overtaken by those doing it.
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Have you guys been greasing the cable yearly?  Mine has a grease nipple between outboard clamps and gets a good go yearly anyway usually 6 monthly - grease coming out of all orifices that it can, and I do on outboard as well.
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Greasing them will help but they do just wear out, Hugh amount of pressure on them. I just put hydraulic steering on mine, well worth it.
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Not good, Was there any sign of it happening, like steering being a little firmer.

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I did not notice any difference in steering, a mate was on helm day before afterwards advised he felt it binding. The cable had done approx 5-600hrs, and snapped internally when backing off pontoon. As for greasing them they are prelubed and do not need greasing. Replaced with no feedback system, huge improvement, and cost effective.
Those that say it can't be done are being overtaken by those doing it.
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This is another example of a situation highlighting the importance of wearing the Kill-Cord. 
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Originally posted by worksux worksux wrote:

Not good, Was there any sign of it happening, like steering being a little firmer.

 
No more than usual, boat has done 260 hours and steering greased regularly.
 
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Very scary stuff ,especially with a four year old boat. Not something you would give a second thought to. Have not noticed but is steering checked at servicing. How fast were you going Potty when this happened.  I usually stand when motoring along for better viz. But standing could make one even more likely to go overboard if this happened.
Wonder how common broken steering is.
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Originally posted by Coastguard Maritime School Coastguard Maritime School wrote:

This is another example of a situation highlighting the importance of wearing the Kill-Cord. 
 
Have thought a lot about wearing the kill-cord, agree that it would make a huge difference in this situation.
My favourite type of fishing is soft baiting the wash, being able to start the motor quickly and by whoever is on the boat is why I have it fixed in place. A bad habit that could be improved.
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

Very scary stuff ,especially with a four year old boat. Not something you would give a second thought to. Have not noticed but is steering checked at servicing. How fast were you going Potty when this happened.  I usually stand when motoring along for better viz. But standing could make one even more likely to go overboard if this happened.
Wonder how common broken steering is.
 
35 MPH, ironically the sea conditions were the calmest they had been all day and we were going in a straight line.
Centre consul boat so both standing at helm, cable pulled away at the join so not something you would notice.
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Thanks Potty. Think i will stop going WOT until i get things checked. My boat is 3 years old ,but even so. Wonder what cost would be to change systems.
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Originally posted by Coastguard Maritime School Coastguard Maritime School wrote:

This is another example of a situation highlighting the importance of wearing the Kill-Cord. 

Hi CMS, I'm not suggesting this isn't a good idea or tying to be clever but I have never seen anybody actually use the kill cord. How often would you say are these are used by skippers? Cheers 
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so potty, you gonna look at hydraulic then?
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Originally posted by jackel jackel wrote:

Originally posted by Coastguard Maritime School Coastguard Maritime School wrote:

This is another example of a situation highlighting the importance of wearing the Kill-Cord. 


Hi CMS, I'm not suggesting this isn't a good idea or tying to be clever but I have never seen anybody actually use the kill cord. How often would you say are these are used by skippers? Cheers 



jackel, i started using my kill cord years ago actually after reading of an incident of another forum member's steering cable going. story scared me enough to always use it!
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My steering cable parted last week too - in good weather a mile and a half off Mangawhai. A sharp turn to starboard resulted. Lashed the boat hook to the motor cowling as a jury tiller to get home. When taken in for repair was told 2 - 3 years was normal life, anymore than 3 was a bonus, so at nearly 6 I had been lucky. I had never heard about having to change them out - and presumed it would be checked at service and changed as required. No indication of anything untoward, all working fine until it let go. I'm just glad I wasn't crossing the bar in marginal conditions or out at the Kaipara graveyard. Changing at 3 years of they go that long would seem advisable. 
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Originally posted by jackel jackel wrote:

Originally posted by Coastguard Maritime School Coastguard Maritime School wrote:

This is another example of a situation highlighting the importance of wearing the Kill-Cord. 

Hi CMS, I'm not suggesting this isn't a good idea or tying to be clever but I have never seen anybody actually use the kill cord. How often would you say are these are used by skippers? Cheers 

There is no formal research that we are aware of but we're guessing that NZ would be far from a leader when it comes to wearing them. Perhaps the Kiwi "she'll be right" approach hasn't helped.

Agencies such as the RYA in the UK have recently launched awareness campaigns to promote the importance of their use, in part triggered by a horrific fatal accident - details of this here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-25948960

More information on their use here:
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The hydraulic steering on my boat failed suddenly earlier this year when the steering arm unscrewed from the hydraulic arm. A much less common thing than steering cable failure but a bull horn type arrangement would be much better than the single action on my boat.  I was lucky we were only doing 10 knots and had only just got through a bar crossing. At 35mph iit would have been a violent turn. Very lucky you weren't hurt.
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