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These corporations have too much influence
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Here's yet another group with concerns about the TPPA

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11350823
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We will lose our ability to be masters of our own country. This is the beginning of a one world government and everything will change for the worse for us, and for the better for the huge multi-national corporations. A small example...plain packaging for tobacco and those scary adverts will be illegal. Cheap generic medicines will be banned so medicine will cost lots more, and it will be illegal for us to keep GMO food out of NZ     
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re labbeled communisum 
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we need a government that is willing to stand up for the people that voted them in not someone making deals behind closed doors that in the long run will screw us for eternity..

it is so hard to believe they cant lay this on the table and ask us if we agree before they signing anything so disastrous and binding which will tie us into such a money making system that will benefit only the USA...

or is this all about keeping China at bay???? before they become the dominate superpower???
Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing
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State control of economics = communisn regardless of how it is dressed or packaged. Big corporates are very close to the state. They are almost one and the same under the guise of free enterprise.

Dictatorial Auckland city is a good example,and reflects whats going on at the top.

Big changes ahead for N.Z. We are so heavily in debt we have no choice but to go along with the man from Brussels in the Grey suit .

Our 4 biggest export earners. Dairy,meat, wood and oil. (this according to info & stats  on the net) Dairy and oil have taken huge hits. Meanwhile our dollar is falling,bank deposits have no guarantee ,and inflation in the Auckland & Ch Ch housing markets is soaring. Not a good look for our economy. Imagine the pressure this will put on our resources including  fish stocks.They will have to sell everything and anything.

Interest rates could fall again. as money printing continues. The E.U has announced a 1.1 trillion Euro print to keep things rolling. Our banks borrow this at very cheep rates and put alot into housing loans.More people will be taking out even bigger debt to get into a house,trying to compete with cashed up chinese buyers. Our Govt is either powerless or chooses to do nothing to rein in the out of control banks. Bail in policy has already been implemented ,and agreed between govt and banks. Which means if a bank goes broke in a crash it is your deposits that will bail them out. Depositors will take the haircut. Thus banks here can be as reckless as they like with no accountability. So who really is running the show. Not the govt.?

And then when interest rates rise or house prices crash another whole section of our middle class will lose their homes and money. Is this co-incidence or what , or part of a plan,but world wide the middle class is disappearing . Once the very wealthy was 1%. Now it is 0.1 %.

The main chinese credit rating agency have said they expect a crash far greater than 2008 within the next few years.  (source zero hedge)

Just last week our reserve bank said a crash in our overvalued housing market could bring bring financial instability. So what are they saying. Are they trying to scare off developers and buyers ,or are they trying to talk down the dollar.?

Meanwhile Greece has been given 10 days to apply for a bailout or exit the Euro.

We certainly dont live in normal economic times.

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Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

re labbeled communisum 

Would love to you explain this
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The way they are portraying the tppa.goverments will dictate who you can purchase products from.what you can send in forms of emails etc.big brother will be watching
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Might even come down to what variety of tomato seeds you plant. And who to purchase from.no carrying over seeds from your existing stock.there is endless possibilities where the tppa could go.
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When first mentioned I thought it was about sharing security issues with our trading partners but there has been speculation on what has already been mentioned.we will not know till it's signed off and released then too late.
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Judging by the comments to this article people are finally waking up to what TPPA actually is

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11402940
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Totally agree Kevin.  And when you look at the author of that piece in the Herald you can understand how biased the writer is.  Not a thing about pitfalls and how the man in the street is likely to be affected.  Poor journalism indeed.

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Not journalism at all Grant, just a one sided rant. They should have been charged advertising space for that so called article.
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Yeah, bad choice of word there I agree.  Substituting with "form" makes better sense.
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

When first mentioned I thought it was about sharing security issues with our trading partners but there has been speculation on what has already been mentioned.we will not know till it's signed off and released then too late.

It is also written into the agreement that no information about what is included is allowed to be released until five years after it is signed. Anyone who thinks this is solely a free trade agreement is delusional.
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Originally posted by v8-coupe v8-coupe wrote:

Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

When first mentioned I thought it was about sharing security issues with our trading partners but there has been speculation on what has already been mentioned.we will not know till it's signed off and released then too late.

It is also written into the agreement that no information about what is included is allowed to be released until five years after it is signed. Anyone who thinks this is solely a free trade agreement is delusional.


If that is the case then its a first sign of Govt going bad
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isnt it funny we are now virtually run by the USA these days,
just watched a program on TV SKY about how Hitler coming to power,

would you believe it was due to the USA?
USA went into rescission because of some very bad chooses in there Governing 1929,
this reflected on the rest of the world just like the bloody last couple all USA,
but due to Germany being so into borrowing from USA they where even harder hit hence the people went into revolt,
this allowed Hitler into power and start the second world war,
after knocking over most of Europe he took on Britain in earnest which failed,
when Britain ask USA to help they refused to send men only supplies at a hefty charge,
for nearly 4 years the bloody Yanks stood back and screw Britain till the Japs who USA stopped all supplies getting though to Japan attacked Pearl Harbour,
i am not anti America but some stuff that is coming to light these days makes USA nothing more than the biggest rip off the world is ever likely to see,
in fact they are responsible for just about every war that has happened in someway or other.

here we are a tiny little country that has supported the USA in every bloody War they virtually have started yet we still have huge tariffs on our products entering their country and none except on there Cigarettes, due to them killing our population.

now they have some opposition like China they are running scarred which in turn they are trying to tie everyone up so China cant get a foot in the door before they go ahead and start another War with China.

the Yanks are the biggest threat to world peace than any other country, they push people into corners until they have no other option but fight..
    

  
 
 
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Saddam Hussein got into power due to usa saying he is the man.look at how that turned out.bush family doing business deals with bin laden family.that worked too.perhaps usa should just concentrate on their problems and the rest of us can quietly go about our business.
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