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    Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 11:20am
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how do you find holes on a surf beach?? ive been fishing tokerau beach in doubtless bay but havnt caught jak but kahawai. 

Any help appreciated

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I'm no x-spurt but from my understanding look for a patch where the swell is smaller or less white water in breaking waves. As the swell comes up the beach it will break on shallow water first.. If that makes sense to ya lol
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Look for any quieter water along a break. Or where there are waves standing up breaking and then not reforming but simply rolling a bit of white water across. 
There are usually two types of indentations on surf beaches - holes and gutters -neither are usually permanent -as sands moves within a taide or s.  
A hole can be found inside a break and give fish the opportunity to feed in quieter slightly deeper water inside the main break, whereas a gutter may occassionally run right through main break itself giving acess bhind surfline.  Gutters are easier to spot because waves may not necesssarily break there but lose formation and refrom closer to shore. Hence where waves are breaking closer to shore there may be a hole or more likely a gutter behind them. 
However, some of best holes I've fished (few days at on West Coast years ago ) were inside the main break and only required a short cast, yet held good snapper, trevally and gurnard... in a spot where kahawai were predominant catch.  Spot was Hamilton Gap.
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That is pretty much right
Waves break when they get to shallower water
The longitudinal pulse of an ocean wave (A big ripple)
Finds the ocean floor ascending and becoming shallower.
This causes friction and so slows down the bottom half of that waveform
this causes the pulse to become more vertical in shape and ultimately causes the wave to topple over (the breaking part) as the bottom half of the pulse is then going slower than the top half
 
A rip then is the water that has been brought forwartd by this prrocess looking for a wauy back to the lowest point. A "river" between waves
 
Any slackwater or "thicker" non breaking waves are most likely going over the deeper parts of the bneach (The holes)
 
Google will assist you well here also..
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There are a couple of different things to look for;

Gutters - generally a trough between the beach and a bank or a trough between two banks.

Hole - usually form close to shore and usually have white water on outer edges.

Channel - deeper water breaks in the banks and edges of holes. These are the access points that big fish enter/exit through searching for food.

Depth on a surf beach is best gauged by water colour. Light green = shallow water; dark green and blue to black water = deeper water.
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thanx bud gonna go scan the beach now

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Go talk to Kieren at Reel Rods, he,ll sort you out for sure.
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Holes on a surfbeach are usually either side of a sandbar. Waves break over the bar and this is where kahawai usually hunt. The holes can be easily located by calm spots where the waves aren't breaking or in front where the waves whitewash recedes indicating deep water. Get to a beach at low tide and sit and watch. Try to pick holes that you could cast to over low tide and high tide. 
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I wouldn't take it to heart mate, the area you are fishing is loaded with mainly kahawai this time of year, most of the snapper will be close to the rocks and a few k out on the sand. Should be a few gurard around though bud

Small peice of fresh bonito and your away.

Every one looks for different things. If it calm,I like to fish the rougher water, if its rough, you find the calm water and it really don't matter to much at night as long as you are around a good supply of tucker. Lots of scollops come through that area- wait for a big easterly and hit the beach when she calms 

The area your fishing in is very much the same, shallow and it gradually gets deeper. Best fishing at this time of year is from 3pm onwards with low tide around dusk. Fish through till about 8pm. Make sure you have waders so you can really push for distance.
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