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    Posted: 18 May 2017 at 10:38am
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Commercial day time broad bill fishing in the garden patch.  Was just talking to one of guys while I was dropping my chain saws off for a sharpen and low and behold ***** has perfected day dropping commercially for swords and was fishing the whananella banks but now is on our door step 1-1.5miles of line up here in the GP and surrounding areas.  Whats up with this????AngryAngryOuchOuch
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Concerning.
Looks like time to include this species with our marlin/billfish as not being part of the commercial catch before they are on the road to quite a reduction.
As the progress of our tourism industry blossoms I suspect that a number of these tourists will be here on a fishing holiday.
And as we understand there is a greater return for recreational as per dollars than the commercial sector can return for us.
Maybe yet another string to add to legaseas now 12 string guitar, so to speak.
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Yeah it sucks but whats the difference to them catching them during the day versus at night? The quota is still the same..... only thing is now its right in your face we get upset.
 
Agree with Al we should push to have them protected like marlin out of the QMS
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just horrifying to see them in close rather then say at the whananallas

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Yeah they are fishing them hard, the average weight is getting down to 45kg in some areas. Typical history of destroy, like the mussel beds that used to exist in the firth of thames.
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How do you know they are after swordfish as opposed to hapuka/blue nose Jake??
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Al if he is setting the longline in the trench then he will be targeting broadies, if it is set over the 335 area then the target will be bluenose.
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 Not new at all and have been doing it for ages up and down the coast right through to Gizzy ! Cry
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Our last trip out to gp we had a certain houhora based com fishing boat pass within 100m of us putting its line out. As you can imagine not happy especially with 500m of braid out.it came from other side of tounge and must have spotted the deep bait area we were fishing over(only bit all day). I can only imagine sword "bycatch" these guys catch if they are there. But there is a significant sword quota which is caught around nz every year. So we have done 3 sword trips this year with no bites. Feel ya pain jakepitsville.
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Bummer to hear.

What is the total swordfish quota?

Because before when they were caught as "Tuna bycatch" they wiped them out around 12 or more years ago and most of the sword lining boat moved on to other fish.
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Originally posted by Plonker Plonker wrote:



What is the total swordfish quota?



Plonker approx 885T for the whole of New Zealand
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Originally posted by Tzer Tzer wrote:

Originally posted by Plonker Plonker wrote:



What is the total swordfish quota?



Plonker approx 885T for the whole of New Zealand


Thanks  Tzer

Any idea what was taken each year as bycatch before they went on to quota?


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Originally posted by Plonker Plonker wrote:

Originally posted by Tzer Tzer wrote:

Originally posted by Plonker Plonker wrote:



What is the total swordfish quota?



Plonker approx 885T for the whole of New Zealand


Thanks  Tzer

Any idea what was taken each year as bycatch before they went on to quota?




Sorry no I dont
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2007 Fishing Net article on Sword quota

http://www.fishing.net.nz/fishing-news/broadbill-management-and-quota/
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Great article Baru
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If its about 1000 tonnes . Does that =4000 fish at 250 kg each or am I doing my sums wrong?If not imagine the uproar seeing them hung up on the gantry all at one time. And is that 1000 tonnes trunk weight?
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Your sums are correct.. and its scary to consider it..
The average would be more like 100kg..   so its more like 10000 fish..

You raise an interesting point about trunk weight v whole weight. They will be landed as trunks, so presumably weighed as such..  and the quota will be in weighed fish..

Trunk weight would be about 2/3 of whole weight..  ( somebody will correct me )

So add a few more thousand fish onto the 10000...  

Somebody stated they were averaging 45kg per fish in some areas ..  so probably not sexually mature... so thats a concern if true..  screams out that the the MSY is set way too high.

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I've watched the longliners land swordfish at Napier.  Average weight way less than 100kg.  Way way less.
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Is there a season for broadbill? Been told they move off to tropics for breeding in winter.
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SWO is Landed as HGF state; headed gutted and finned. Conversion factor of 1.35 from processed state to greenweight, so 100kg trunk would be 135kg greenweight which would be the amount of quota or more accurately ACE or annual catch entitlement needed to cover this amount.
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