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    Posted: 27 Aug 2006 at 8:24pm
Hi All,
 
Does any one have any info on stream restoration or know anyone who is or used to be actively involved ? Or of any resources, case studies etc available
 
I've tried contacting local fish and game a couple of times but haven't got very far yet.
 
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Trout Unlimited imitated some stuff at a point but it died out as far as I am aware.
 
If you have a specific project in mind I would tend to get together with local anglers groups, forumlulate a plan and then put it to Fish and game for approval. i would expect the answer will be "It's a great idea, we can't help you but will give the OK and moral support"...
 
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I have a creek flowing through our property and we have privately been trying to restore. Mostly by removing willows, fencing is off from stock and doing natural plantings around the banks. 10 years ago or so, the creek had quite a healthy population of trouts living in it... Even a couple of large friendlily ones which we saved from a pond which was drying up and transported to permanent water. They would quite happily raise to bits of bread, and even ended up spawning in a shallow rapid.

Sadly, my father gave permission for a eeler to set his traps in the pond to get a few eels. He assured as that the traps did not catch trout, and he would release any. Nothing of what he said was true, and the friendly trouts were last seen trapped in the net late that night (thinking back we should of released them and knifed the net).   After that there was a few trouts left in less desirable areas, but the creek was hit by a drought which turned many of the ponds into stagnant slime pits. Slowly they dried. Then for the next 4-5 years the creek flow has not connected to the main river for long enough to allow trouts to repopulate the ponds.

On several occasions I have been tempted to catch a few fingerling's to release in the creek. Might have to ask Fish and Game opinion on doing that. In all our restoration attempts have not improved water quality by much, there is more overhanging grasses and flaxes, but due to the extra light weed growth has increased. The log jams caused by fallen down willows also created small waterfalls which use to dig out deep pools. Many of them have started to fall in sense, but that could have been due to the lack of any floods. The creek is now a better place for nesting water fowls.
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Toby,
 
Try Taranaki Regional Council for funding and scientific assistance for stream restorations. In my region, Environment Waikato assists with a number of these projects.
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Thats very interesting stuff Militaris, You do tend to think a stream is a stream is a stream.  But there are so mant changing variables that make a stream a stream and habitat for fish like trout. I guess native species planted hard along the banks would give the shelter and shade the water. Just leaving nice runs and pools clear with grasses and flaxs hebes etc. Prob is you bust a gut to do the right thing but your neighour still has cattle standing in the middle and soiling the stream above your section:-(   
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We own cattle and they are not that big of a problem, they do not like water much so rarely cross. Red Deer are the worst offenders they get in swim and wallow around causing a great mess. Fallow deer, or geese are pretty good things to have around a creek, they keep weed growth down while causing minimal damage.

I decided to take a few photos of a small creek on our property. This has never been much of a trout stream but it shows the effect of removing willows and blocking out the stock. I would add that this creek has not seen a flood for 3-5 years hence the build up of branches beneath the willows.

http://my.opera.com/Militaris/albums/show.dml?id=123437



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Thanks guys.
 
Miltaris. So a few trout would leave the river when the creek was high enough to connect to the river, other wise the creek flowed from pond to pond without emptying into the river. And you've turned these stagnant pools into a sort of wetland.... cool.
 
Does the water through there still become dirty after rain or remain clearer for longer than before removing the willows ect ?
 
I think herds crossing the river from pasture to pasture on an infrequent basis probably don't do to much damage but their effluent washing/being dumped into the waterways sure does.
 
Its been a real issue in Tara's because of the high intensity of farming that is done here.
 
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There are some interesting cases to the contrary though. While fully acepting that fencing of a stream is most usually the best way to go...
 
On one spring creek I know they fenced the river to keep the cows out... the result was the watecress all but completely covered the stream making it unfishable. Gates were added and cows allowed in periodically to grass of most of the cress.. a nice compromise for both parties.
 
Also, one of the things coming out of the Didymo research is that it does not appear to like rivers high in nutrients... in the SDidymo fight the dairy farmer may well be the anglers best freidns and wouldn't it be bizarre if dumping effluent became a control measure....
 
stranger things have happened....
 
 
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The small creek which I took the photos off pretty much dries completely up during the summer. Its deepest spot is only about half a meter. It use to have one deep-ish pond caused by water running through a culvert which kept water in all but the driest of years. Use to be a good spot to catch tadpoles. But the largest fish I find in it was a small eel. But the council filled that in while burying a pipe along the roadside. At the moment, the small creek has not even started flowing properly. Tomorrow I would check the culvert. The water currently there has slowly been raising from springs, and a bit of trapped rain.


With regards to the main creek, during a normal years flow it would connect to the Opawa river for maybe 2-3 months. During that time quite a few trouts would slowly head up it, Most of which I suspect would die. During the strong flows/floods I suspect a few trouts (along with the eels) would swim back down towards the sea. When my dad was a child (40 years ago)he saved 50 odd small trouts from a single pond which was drying up. In the last few years I have probably saved 30-40 eels and around 300 bullys from the creek. I do not know if the eels were swimming upstream or downstream when they got trapped.

For the other 9 months of the year there is a series of isolated ponds which pretty much hold water, at times the ponds would be separated from each other. (The creek is dry both upstream and downstream from them) In winter the creek is all fresh and clean looking. Came summer it would warm up and slime would take over unless there is tree cover, water weeds grow quite thickly. Came autumn the ponds have started to become quite stagnant.

With regards to the colour of the water. It really depends on the amount of rainfall we get. If it is heavy enough to cause a flood it would be brown... if it is a lighter fall then it would flow clear. During the summer months the the willows probably keep the water slightly cleaner because they block out the light and slow down the growth of weeds and slimes. In autumn their leaves would stain the water.

Personally I think willows and large trees have their place.
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Originally posted by Clark Reid

There are some interesting cases to the contrary though. While fully acepting that fencing of a stream is most usually the best way to go...
 

On one spring creek I know they fenced the river to keep the cows out... the result was the watecress all but completely covered the stream making it unfishable. Gates were added and cows allowed in periodically to grass of most of the cress.. a nice compromise for both parties.

 

Also, one of the things coming out of the Didymo research is that it does not appear to like rivers high in nutrients... in the SDidymo fight the dairy farmer may well be the anglers best freidns and wouldn't it be bizarre if dumping effluent became a control measure....

 

stranger things have happened....

 

 

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I completely agree that livestock have their place in the river beds. Without them weeds can quite easily take over.

That is what happened in my above photos... The water weeds have completely smotherhed the creek bed, while under the willows the water is formings ponds quite freely.    
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mmmm so the message in all that is that each streams situation is unique and you probably need to know and really think about what your doin before you go farkin with anything ...... I'm sure theres something about history repeating in there too !
 
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Originally posted by Clark Reid

 
Also, one of the things coming out of the Didymo research is that it does not appear to like rivers high in nutrients... in the SDidymo fight the dairy farmer may well be the anglers best freidns and wouldn't it be bizarre if dumping effluent became a control measure....
 
stranger things have happened....
 
Clark
 
Hi Clark ...was just wondering where you get your info from as have been trying to stay abreast of the latest with didymo and haven't being able find much other than F&G ?
 
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I get a lot of info from F&G as a councillor. Much of it cannot be made public due to their frustration with BNZ... They do not want to exasapate a situation where they see BNZ running a media campaign but not a campaign that does naything for Didymo...
 
It's a bloody sad state of affairs. I'd love to be more public but if I do that, my sources dry up... catch 22.
 
just believe this Bio Security is doing bugger all. Fish and game pulling their hair out. research shows most anglers have not changed any behaviors because of Didymo and our fisheries are getting screwed in the process....
 
It's a BIG DEAL.. Makes me mad which is why I'll shut up now as I've been controversial enough lately!
 
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One of the theories floating around with regards to D. geminata is that a genetic variant which has broader tolerances to UV is causing the invasion....

In New Zealand we have a higher then normal UV because of the hole in the ozone layer. The higher UV reduces the populations of the grazer (Small bugs/things which feed on algae), or that it can out compete other algal species under increased UV conditions.

Below is the best source I have found on rock snot.
http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/pests-diseases/plants/didymo/didyo-schmidt-report.pdf

for a summary this is worth a read.
http://www.issg.org/database/species/ecology.asp?si=775&fr=1&sts


Personally I feel that in the long term that didymo is not going to be the problem many people fear. The natural balance would sort itself out. I base this claim on how it grows in the northern hemisphere.


    
    
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Toby,
 
Have you tried looking at sites from the UK?  There are heaps of stream restoration projects over here that might help with anything you have planned in NZ. 
 
http://www.therrc.co.uk are one of the good ones over here and if you look under 'River Projects' there should be some info on case studies. 
The wild trout trust's website: http://www.wildtrout.org/
Or the US 'Stream Corridor Restoration': http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/technical/stream_restoration/
 
Hope these help a bit - apologies if you were looking for NZ specific info!
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Cheers for that I'll check the sites.
 
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The wild trout site looks the business.

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Re. Didymo, we now have it in the Mataura near Athol, the Eglinton (a trib. of Te Anau), the Matukituki (a trib of Wanaka), as well as the Oreti, Aparima and its trib. the Hamilton Burn, Whitestone, Mararoa, upper & lower Waiau, Upukerora, Fraser River (a trib. of the Clutha), upper & lower Clutha, Von (a trib. of Wakatipu), Hawea R., Ahuriri, Twizel, Ohau, Waitaki, Buller (there's probably a few other waters around the Buller), and Lakes Dunstan, Benmore & Manapouri.  Next season, I am expecting it to be found in the Manuherikia, Lindis, Timaru River (a trib. of L. Hawea), Makarora and the Tekapo R.  I am certain it will end up in the central North Island in time, the Tongariro would be perfect habitat.  First found in the Waiau & Mararoa in Oct. 2004, I saw it in the Hawea the day (28 Sept 2005) Southland F & G Officer Stu Sutherland found it there, small growths about the size of a 5 cent piece.  By the end of December 2005, I estimate at least an 80% coverage of the upper Clutha riverbed.  There is great difficulty fly fishing in it, even with dry flies (during its bloom).  This probably should be on another forum (shift this message if you wish), but I thought you guys should know.  In my opinion, it poses the single greatest threat to NZ's freshwater eco-systems and freshwater recreation.  Be vigilant, keep it out of the central NI for as long as you can.  It's a very sobering sight when you have the pleasure of its company.
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I suspect that any river or tributaries in affected catchments would be contaminated rather quickly. I would prefer to see whole catchments classified as contaminated, and treated according rather then just certain rivers in them. They are all interconnected anyway.

Remote rivers, on the upper sides of lakes might be protected for a while. Would be interesting to see how long it takes for it to spread up the Buller and into Lake Rototit and hence into the travers. The boats and kayaks which operate on the lake would quicken its spread to the head.

I might have to take a trip over to the Buller one day to see what it is like in person.
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