Trinidad vs Torium
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Printed Date: 16 Jun 2026 at 6:47am
Topic: Trinidad vs Torium
Posted By: Naki
Subject: Trinidad vs Torium
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 7:35am
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Thinking of a bit of TAS therapy at the boat show. Is the extra $$$ for a Trinidad worth it when compared to a Torium. I want a reel to fish in 50 - 120 metres with 15kg braid. Fast retreive and light. Looking at a size 16. Know the Trini has an adjustable clicker, but as we don't do much straylining down here don't consider it important. What are the other differences between the two.
Cheers.
------------- President of the "Pontoon Owners Club". I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!! |
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 9:18am
Naki,hi,having the Trinidad 30 and the Tekota 800 (big bro. of the Torium)the diff. is the quality,as the vast diff.in the cost of each reel indicates.I'd rather have the Trinidad,anyday,tho both have the Dartanium drag stuff,it's a quality thing... Ask any tackle shop salesguy,and they will tell you the same thing as well, if they're honest i'm sure. Although the Tekota has a level wind,the 'innards' can't be of the same quality,these newer Toriums and Tekotas were made to copy,sort of, the Trinidads,and to keep the cost down. Also regarding the ballbearing adverts for reels,"It has 6 ballbearings", if they were made of aircraft quality,(as in the much dearer reels generally),the reel would maybe only need 4....same thing again,quality of these,you wont get aircraft grade ballbearings in any cheaper reels,i wouldn't think,and adds to the cost,obviously,still nice reels the Toriums etc,don't get me wrong, but as i always say,'Let the cost tell you the quality', tho there may be a few things out there ,that this wont always ring true to. And it applies to most products of any sort,anywhere... ya get what ya pay for... as i say just my humble opinion.... i stand to be corrected,but thats how i see it....Jim
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Posted By: Bender
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 10:01am
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Save your money ... buy a Penn. ------------- Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water. |
Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 11:36am
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Nah mate BP uses those and I don't want to catch the Chairman effect. ------------- President of the "Pontoon Owners Club". I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!! |
Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 12:15pm
Nice Naki- BLOODY NICE!!! ------------- Good for Nuthin |
Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 6:58pm
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MXL Avet or LX Avet. Kills them dead. |
Posted By: JW
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2004 at 7:29pm
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I bought a Torium 30 for speed jigging. Found the reel a bit off balance when cranking even with the rod wedged firmly under the armpit which is odd seeing as thats what it's designed for. Beefy drag and lighting retrieve, feels very solid but not my favorite bit of kit. No idea what the trinidads are like. Also the bit a about it casting poppers like a dream 100yds+ is questionable. For years I've surfcasted with overheads no probs but this is a pig to cast (unless the spool is tightened right up - not great.) Admitedly I've spooled the thing right up with some nylon backing behind the braid which doesn't help make casting easy. Just my thoughts - it might yet grow on me with a different rod combo and maybe respooling. |
Posted By: stew
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 3:32pm
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Jim I wouldnt say the Torium is exactly cheap ! For the price you would expect a good reel.
stew
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 5:06pm
| Stew,hi,if you compare their price against the equivalent sized Trinidad model,you'll know there is a vast difference in cost,but as i said,they are still a good real,and compared to other brands of similar design,aren't cheap in themselves,but are still alot cheaper than the Trinidads, thats what i meant Stew...cheers Jim |
Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 5:18pm
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i ight be biased cause i sell tackle but i personnaly think you will be disappointed if you by a torium have sold a couple to reel good mates and now feel like a c#*@ because thye have craped them selves they are certainly not as good as a trindad but then again they are a lot dearer
strawberry
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 6:26pm
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Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 6:31pm
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 6:55pm
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i people have a torrium 16 reel that i have used since september last year have caught five snapper over 10kgs on it since that time with many others cant fault it drag is like the day i got it casts well and i dont really look after it that well. its not my favourite reel but it has done a lot of work in that time. the only problem i have had with it is the clicker craped it self first time when a large red grabbed a large bait. theirs a lot of great reels on the market today its just trial and error to get one that suits youre budget and style of fishing. ------------- cod |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2004 at 8:49pm
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Interesting reading. I liked the look of the Torrium, dont really need anymore reels at the moment. Still TAS does take over when you go browsing through tackle stores.
Cheers Woody |
Posted By: murrayt
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2004 at 6:24pm
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Check out http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com">http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com ,try the tackle forum before you dust serious money on a Trinidad. Torium is aluminium diecast, left sideplate graphite. Trinidad forged aluminium, left sideplate stamped alloy. Drags and gears are the same. The US long range fishers have hammered these reels with heavyweight braid and you don't hear of many problems (bar some with the new ARB's which both reels have I think). I think you pay a heap extra for a pretty gold finish (which I've found less durable than the Toriums) and not much else.
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2004 at 7:30am
I don't agree with that, the Torium are a product,made to fill the mid range quality offerings for this type of reel,whereas the Trinidad,are a one piece machined top quality reel with better innards,in them,i have a Trinidad 30 and a Tekato 800,like chalk and cheese, no way would the Toriums match up to the quality of the same similar model of the Trinidad,hence the huge price difference.Now that to me alone tells me which is the better reel,any honest  salesguy or serviceman,will tell you this is true,why would all the fishos around the world, many old hands at the game,and know which quality product and brand names are,buy a Trinidad, for that dosh,and not choose a Torium or Tekato,at say half price,of these Trinidads and save money,if they are as you are saying, virtually the one and the same reel,but the costly one is because of it's gold colouring?.... Doubt it .... ------------- 
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Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2004 at 12:44pm
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The TN's are way smoother than their cloned brother. The toriums will still hold together on snapper. ------------- Good for Nuthin |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2004 at 1:15pm
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ive got a torium and the star drag keeps coming undone byits self, buggered if i know whats going on there, and minimal movement needed to tighten it up as pat found out when i said dont move it much youll bust of, he moved the drag half a centimeter and busted off, the two non stainless washers inside the drag system have rusted and one of the bottom brace screws snapped inside the thread when i was doing it up, not even tight...dissapointed...you bet... good drag tho and easy to cast...i would have expected more from shimano as they arent that cheap when i bought it... ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2004 at 4:26pm
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tobes yeah,i can't understand Shimano making a reel like that,and as you've pointed out a couple of faults, and Strawberry's post about some faults his mates ones got, further up this thread,dosen't exactly praise them either,i wouldn't really want one, knowing that about them,bad lapse of judgement by Mr Shimano,better put some plasters on my Tekato 800, just in case it throws a wobbly... -------------
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Posted By: scarpie
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2004 at 11:26pm
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Actually the opinion from many of the guys on the Allcoast board is that the Torium is a very good reel. Some guys are actually selling their Trinidads at a big loss in order to replace them with Toriums! Some are adament that the internals are the same, others say they are better! A few guys report stronger drags on the Torium and have to have them. Tempting reel at a good price. I don't regard it as a casting reel either, too heavy spool.
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 12:53am
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they are both good reels i have both my torrium16 has done a lot of work and has been very reliable. and it casts a unweighted bait very well. my trinidad 20 has been great so far cant fault either of them. ------------- cod |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 6:31am
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ill bring mine in cod and can ya see if you can sort out the problems....where are ya just fishing or something?? ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 7:47am
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no tobes i am at hooked on fishing in whangaparoa . if you need someone to fix things down that end go and see shaun at justfishin or pat the rat at auckland fishing tackle they are guns on reel repairs. i am sure that they would be able to sort out youre problems. ------------- cod |
Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 8:21am
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Well. I took my new Torium 20 out to 80 metres last Thursday to get a few Terakihi and I really liked it. I have it matched to a VIP 865 spooled with 30lb braid. Very smooth and fast. This is exactly the type of fishing I bought it for and it is perfect, I'm rapt.
PS. We managed a dozen nice Turkeys as well ------------- President of the "Pontoon Owners Club". I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!! |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 9:18am
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Good stuff,Naki -------------
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 5:29pm
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nice highspeed terakihi catcher. ------------- cod |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 7:38pm
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pat the rat..haha... never herd that before...that might just stick. ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 7:42pm
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have always called the little bugger that tobes over many years. ------------- cod |
Posted By: matt watson
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 8:29pm
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Well I've used a trinidad and I have a Torium, both sweet reels. My Torium is a 30 spooled with 50lb braid on a 15-24kg 6'6" Backbone rod - I'm wrapped with the set. I'm not sure I would pay the extra for the Trinidad I just can't fault the torium - I would say that the trinidad is balanced a bit better and maybe lighter. |
Posted By: billfish
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 8:56pm
| Got a Torium 30 too and would also say about the only weakness is balance. I think a narrower spool (as in speed jigger) would be an improvement. Do they have one? |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2004 at 11:46pm
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its just personal taste between the two and price. i like both of them so own both. i find both great work horses very reliable great drags and cast well with a high speed retrieve. ------------- cod |
Posted By: Naki
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2004 at 8:15am
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Yeah Matt the Torium is a little heavier. Which was a concern for me, but after using it I find it's fine. Have also heard from a number of people that the TOR30 is a bit unbalanced. A mate has both TN30 & TOR20 and he prefers the TOR20.
Can't wait to try it out on the Kapiti trip. ------------- President of the "Pontoon Owners Club". I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!! |
Posted By: Nsane
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2004 at 8:43pm
| just bought a torium16... just wondering what line i would spool on it... still have to spool a line on my tld15 .... |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2004 at 9:57pm
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the torrium 16 and 8kg are a nice combo thats what i use on my one. run a heavier line class on youre tld. ------------- cod |
Posted By: Snapperoo
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2012 at 4:48pm
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Check out the Alantini reel repairs site - they're both great reels and share the same flaw. The anti reverse systems occasionally fail. Apart from metal v graphite and two more bearings, they seem pretty much the same to me.
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Posted By: C A
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2012 at 8:42pm
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wow, how did you even manage to find this thread? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2012 at 6:50am
| had anti reverse bearing fail in a torium app its very common according to local shop staff they tell me they have had few back .mind you was foolish enough to use it at ranfurlys , leave nothing to chance now twin anti reverse dogs in my kingy reels now . really really want a new trini 10 tho dunno why maybe cos they look so cool and tiny would be expensive exercise as would have to purchase a 50g or 100g rod to match as well! |
Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2012 at 9:13am
Are you drag washers put in correctly ? that's normally the cause of unwinding drag when the lock washer has been put in the wrong order. the rusted drag washers would indicate no grease in the drag and that is probably your binding issue under small movements. Rust would also indicate water in the reel. so left in the gunnel holders whilst in transit or blasted with a hose to was down? be interested to hear whats the hap's Tobez Trini's are very nice. If you have the budget for one there definitely worth the upgrade.
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tobez wrote:Posted By: brown
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 12:21am
8 years ago dude.....they may still have 2 years on warranty
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