Blue in Mercury bay
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Topic: Blue in Mercury bay
Posted By: whiti-fisho
Subject: Blue in Mercury bay
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 10:04am
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Just on radio Blue est 180kg tagged and released on boat "Merciano' I think that was the name .On the 500m line in area "Hiwi the Kiwi" which is the middle ground Temps of 19.3 being talked about Roll on Boxing day ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
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Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 10:48am
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nice, certainly blue and theres been feed out there for over a week, massive effort.
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 12:39pm
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Murmur , murmur, murmur ! ! ! I think I may have to dust off the cobwebs on Wetspot and get her in the water ! ! ------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 1:30pm
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Awesome stuff - the season is cranking up!! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 1:33pm
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And was just told of a 62kg bigeye caught yesterday by a junior angler in grid area "Troy Wheeler contracting" which sis wide in the middle ground .It is a pending Club and national record .Think I can hear the sound of Wetspot being furiously dusted ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 1:35pm
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Junior angler was Tim Wheeler on Reel Obsession and angler on Blue Marlin was Mike Mcdowell ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 1:36pm
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Mark Mcdowell ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 5:56pm
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bloody awesome well done those blokes and the young fella.
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 6:01pm
My hands were shaking as I loaded my poles into ET today
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 6:27pm
 This in from Tony Fox...Herewith a photo of the 62.14kg big eye tuna caught by Tim Wheeler (Jnr) on 23 dec 09 fishing from the family boat Reel Obsession.
Tim's fish is a pending club and NZ record and I believe the first caught in NZ this season. Also of note his brother Troy is the current club jnr record holder so a family affair indeed.
Also of note we have had our first and probably NZ's first T&R blue marlin caught by Mark McDowell today at 10.00 am. ------------- Online... |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 6:42pm
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awesome 1hr 10mins not bad for a kid.... congratulations Tim excellent effort... bloody fish is bigger than you  which makes it even more of an achievement....  yeah go the Penns.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Flying Dutchman
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2009 at 1:44pm
Hi Boulder, Dutchy , just doing the same today . See u up that way 28th / 29th .
Congrats, two the anglers on bigeye / Blue .great effort.
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Boulder wrote:Posted By: phantomdeviant
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2009 at 3:13pm
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Couple of nice fish there. Go hard boys
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Posted By: NZTurtle
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2009 at 5:39pm
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Man, that's a great acheivement for both anglers but awesome by the young fella. congrats. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2009 at 9:46pm
Absolute top fish for the young fella and pending records is just great ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 11:36am
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boat hooked up at the amunition grounds? - been a while now so hope its a goodie ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 12:22pm
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a big black..calling for help to get onto duckboard as two of them cant get it...well done those peeps ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 12:32pm
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Lets wait and see what the beastie is like hopefully we can get a pic... go that team.. ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 12:47pm
| Pete and Penny on 'Goin Deep' with a black. |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 12:53pm
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Any ideas as to size, hope it's a goodie....members of MBGFC..? ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 12:59pm
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Yep, both members of the club. Penny a past President. Sounds like a v.good fish. Someone else is gotta shortbill to weigh also. |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:03pm
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Damn, looking good for the club this season then, hope it keeps going like this when I get back to NZ for the Top Ten Tuna...
Well hopefully pics will be put up, they and the club need to have bragging rights.... what size boat are they in, it's a fare way out isn't it? ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:18pm
| Yeah a long way out there, but a lot of good fish have been caught in that area. They have a 40 odd ft Riv. |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:22pm
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Good size boat then, wouldn't mind seeing if I can get my 6.5ht out there some time ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:28pm
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est 260 -280kg eta 3pm at the wharf ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:32pm
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Fabulous, keep us informed..... ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:35pm
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Otdrman ,have you got a Blue and white 5.5 Zuker in your arsenal ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:36pm
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ok - just listening
anothe 1 or 2 stripies - wont confirm as i just got the back end of someones elses coversation, another black sunbathing but not hooked..a few tailers also seen...so they are there
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:37pm
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And where are we Tobez ,bloody working as usual ,shed wireup today and garage tommorrow ,miss the softie challenge now BUGGA!!!!! ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:39pm
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I have, and a BP damn it being at work on a time like this...arrgghhhhh
All beakies hey, no YFT or Big Eye? ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:41pm
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only that triple from yesterday ------------- Waikato North Harbourmaster...Got a Nav Safety question for the Waikato region?...call me 021705642 or download the app Marine Mate! |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:47pm
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Didn't hear about that one, was that at Whiti or Whangamata...? ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Sassy1
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 2:50pm
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Tobez
Any update on when the Blue will be weighed?
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 2:53pm
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Bout now 3.00 pm ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: Sassy1
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:00pm
| Thanks |
Posted By: otdrmn
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:34pm
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:37pm
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When they catch a 283.0kg Black Marlin I think you should Graham ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:43pm
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Ouch, nice fish....early season and a great start, tackle shops will be inundated for blue/white zukers now.... ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:48pm
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yep 283.6kg angler
nice fish
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 3:54pm
well done to the team, great size Black marlin anyone want to buy a blue /white 5.5 i got a stripy on mine last year
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:02pm
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Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:02pm
Congrats to Penny...
How many are you trying to sell Kave, bet the shops will be putting all their stock on display...lol ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:06pm
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Hope that's a PENN she got it on..... ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Firey
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:07pm
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bloody fantastic!! congrats
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:10pm
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Sorry predator I'm fairly certain Pete and Penny use all Duel's on their boat ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:26pm
haha, no skin mate....as long as they can get the fish to the boat is the important thing.... ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:30pm
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well done to the crew an angler certainly has kicked off well for them.... yep sure its a Duel alright... that last pic whiti-fisho doesn't do the fish justice some how.... im not complaining that cant get any better than being on the wharf with you... thanks for the update this is as good as it gets "prime time" cheers mate... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Weighmaster
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:34pm
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Kaveman yours must be faulty - one stripey
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Posted By: whiti-fisho
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:34pm
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Lethal I didn't even see it ,was working ,got the daughter to pop down and take piccies .Popped home for a bite and am off out again now Pete and Penny certainly know what they are doing and with there new Yank tank they are becoming very lethal to the fish population ------------- I step out my door to paradise on earth |
Posted By: J-D
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:40pm
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Man, can someone rotate the photos so I don't need to turn my screen around
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Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:43pm
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Very much a blue that one
Great fish for this early in the season well done!
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Posted By: otdrmn
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 4:43pm
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Wow! ------------- The 4 R's ~ Rods, Reels, Rifles, Rooting |
Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:47pm
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Posted By: Martini Max
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:50pm
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Just got back from a few beers on their boat in the Waterways, have a few pics of the Black and an over the moon Penny and Crew. Lovely fish. My Wife took a bunch of pics, while I took another boat back to the Marina, so will try and sort them and get 'em up later. Gonna be a big night 'down the Sharkie' I reckon.. Yep, all Duel reels and Custom LiveFibre Rods. Cool as. Cheers. |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 7:51pm
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Wow 625 pounds is a bloody top effort in 2hrs
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Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:00pm
| nice work Pen bet there will be some sore heads tomorrow! |
Posted By: bevan b
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:04pm
| why does the board say black marlin,,thats a blue!!!!!!!< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:07pm
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It's a Black, I'm sure the folk know what they caught....the post started with the Blue that was T&R the other day.... ------------- 70ml of 90deg C water pressurised through 13g of roasted finely ground tamped coffee for 25sec's to make a distinguishing sensory hit called a Double Shot |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:08pm
Thats is what it appears to be mate, a shame there is no head photo...
Yep hard to gauge by photos eh... some one mentioned rigid pecs so a black it is...
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Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:35pm
| Just one look at the pec fins gives it away, blacks have more of a curve to them. |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:46pm
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Either way, It's a great catch and very well dealt with in short time...
Suspect they'll be paying for their efforts in the morning...lol
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 8:54pm
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awesome pure and simple, I want one over 250k this season and yip I will be trying as well
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Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 9:18pm
just spoke to the weighmaster and its a black - the pictorial fins dont fold down beside the body.
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 9:31pm
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i hope they got it right Tobes because large Blues dont fold too well either is what i read.... ive only caught one T/R so i wouldnt know an thats the truth.... but those stripes on its body are a worry as well but that dorsal is way too big nearly the size of it body... im not an expert an would love it to be a Black.... photos can be very deceiving at times..... nah i take it back the dorsal not as big when you zoom in on it.....  ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 9:38pm
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I was thinking the same as you lethal. Some more pics would help |
Posted By: Weighmaster
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 10:04pm
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that last zoom image of yours lethal shows a very distinctive curved pectoral ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> trolling one knot faster, one degree off course, is where we should have been yesterday? or ! |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 10:22pm
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yep your right there weighmaster.... pic's taken from different angles can sure make things look like they shouldn't... im glade its come down to this, its now a Black for sure... why should i of doubted them anyway... pull your head in Lethal an smack your hand.. och... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 10:25pm
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well one things for sure its black and blue now, like I said before bloody awesome, and this early in the season, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 10:34pm
 ah no more sore neck lol
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 4:14am
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here is another i found which is just as good when you cant see everything check the second anal fin and second dorsal fin... only the blacks second dorsal fin is in front of the second anal fin....  ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:53am
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All I can say is it was bloody frustrating listening to it all happen as I was snapper fishing with the family a mere 25km from where they hooked that fish.
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Posted By: I tag em
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 9:18am
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Thats a Blue no question, just the angle there lethal. There is no curve to the pecs in the pic Bite2000 posted, anal fin is far too big for a black, colouration is definate Blue marlin, dorsal is too high for a black.
Still a beaut fish, congrats to the crew.
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 9:41am
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I've just spoken to Tony Fox, manager at MBGFC, and the fish has been positively identified as a black by two of the local weighmasters so that can put the black/blue debate to bed. Nice fish and congratulations to Penny and Peter. Mercury Bay looks like the place to be.... ------------- Online... |
Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:03am
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Posted By: I tag em
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:21am
Did they do DNA tests? If so I bet the results will prov otherwise.
Ask Mr Pakula his view
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:26am
yip dead right, the weigh master made the call. ages ago in this thread predator said it was a confirmed black, why are we questioning that?  Look out the rod tugger is doing a Chris ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:27am
| the main thing is they are out on the water doing it, I am sure if there is any doubt to species then a DNA test will be done, who cares if its a Blue or a Black, its a good fish species shouldnt matter. Same amount of work goes into the preparation and time on the water to get it, lets try and focus on the catch rather than debate from a few average photos what it is |
Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:30am
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Tugger, I suggest you call Tony and discuss it with him yourself - the number of the club is 07-866-4121 ------------- Online... |
Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:33am
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That couldn't be Chris BA, he's banned from this site...... but now you come to mention it, that is very similar to the pedantic BS that we used to have to put up with...... dog/new tricks..... leopards/spots........ hmmmmmmm ------------- Online... |
Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:39am
Whats wrong with questioning it when a few of us think otherwise. This is a forum at the end of the day and we are all free to say what we feel.
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 10:54am
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Andrew, no problem with questioning anything but do as I did and give Tony a call and he'll explain why it's been identified as a black. ------------- Online... |
Posted By: BigBlue1300
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:00am
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I say That's a Blue!! Here is pic, we caught blue marlin285kgs in 2008, it look like almost same as that marlin(283kg black marlin) 
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Posted By: shortbait
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:02am
| haveing spent the last few months in cairns on the barrier reef catching black marlin im telling you right now that that fish weighed at mercury bay is a blue marlin,,you can tell by just looking at it,,i have no idea what you guys put on ya cereal but it must be some good stuff! i also hope people around the world dont read this forum as they must think we are a bunch of muppets saying this a blue! all the best for rest of season keep catching those blacks!< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> |
Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:22am
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Hey Andrew - read this carefully.... MBGFC have ID'd it as a Black. However, given your experience, you should direct your comments to Tony. Here's his e-mail address: mailto:to[email protected] - [email protected] and the phone number's above. Let us know how you get on.... ------------- Online... |
Posted By: Adam Scott
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:44am
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Nice Blue, well done to the crew
These wouldnt be the same weigh masters that miss ID a 280kg Blue a few years back as a Stripey now would they...But I guess they dont get paid so we should go easy on them
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Posted By: arjay
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:49am
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Nice fish!! ------------- Land Behind, Fish Below, Stories Ahead! |
Posted By: bitie2000
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 12:03pm
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 12:15pm
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All good - look forward to your report in due course Andrew. ------------- Online... |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 12:29pm
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Posted By: arjay
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 1:13pm
Tough one this - Blue is like a cross between a Stripey and a Black - pec may sort of fold on a black if damaged - don't know how well this will come out. Still a good fish. ------------- Land Behind, Fish Below, Stories Ahead! |
Posted By: Weighmaster
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 2:26pm
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arjay
just curious who made/provides your ID chart?
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 2:59pm
i agree bite2000 but when zoomed in on this pic i can find the start of the second dorsal fin its still in front of the second anal fin.... so its definitely a Black Marlin....  here is a zoomed in section of the tail from the Blue the boys caught in 2008 very similar size... thanks for uploading this pic guys awesome fish as well... take note the Blues 2nd dorsal is behind the 2nd anal also take note the tail shapes are different Black have a tendency to be bent backwards more to the blues straighter tail which is also a dead giveaway....  personally for me anyway and i hope for some others we can take this as a real learning curve to ID ing the difference between a Black and Blue Marlin while out at sea, so we can get it right if you happen to want to release it, or making sure you have called up the right type of fish you have just landed.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: the demon
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 4:12pm
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Great fish ,well done.If they keep the bill ,which id think they will a D.N.A Sample can be taken from it and sent off for i.d.Love to here if there was any sign of bait when hooked or did the beast come out of no where.
Pretty hard to call if you wernt at the whafe thou. Heathy debate
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Posted By: swordfishsteve
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 6:54pm
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Yep nice BLUE marlin, agree with Short Bait & Adam , nice to have a healthy debate about species, should help newbies identify them better, not sure about weimasters though!! ------------- REEL REPAIR GUY - Swordfishsteve, That Is Who I Am and That is What I Do : See More At :www.reelrepairguy.co.nz |
Posted By: arjay
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:26pm
Found it on website of Secretariat of Pacific Community but can't get it to load at the moment. Have a go - http://www.spc.int/OceanFish/Html/TEB/Bill&Bycatch/MarlinIDFlowChart.pdf - http://www.spc.int/OceanFish/Html/TEB/Bill&Bycatch/MarlinIDFlowChart.pdf I can't attach to pm for you as far as I can tell but could e-mail you a copy. ------------- Land Behind, Fish Below, Stories Ahead! |
Posted By: arjay
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:30pm
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For me the debate has been interesting in that it is obvious that it is hard to tell with the fish hanging up in front of you - it is going to be tough at sea and imagined the debate would be about striped vs blue not blue vs black. All good for the learning curve. ------------- Land Behind, Fish Below, Stories Ahead! |
Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 8:10pm
| Both Penny & Pete have caught plenty of bill fish I am sure that they would of debated the species if they had any doubts, best way to prove it will be the DNA test |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 8:10pm
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that is cool arjay... i copied it and did my own while you where looking for the link hahaha...  ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 8:25pm
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Hey Lethal, could you PM me a copy of that, would be great to use...please.
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Posted By: ILEX
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 9:17pm
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that fish is defiantly a blue but here are some alternative ways to identify the fish - check the scales blues have large pronounced scales and skin looks like chopped strand fiberglass - blues have raised joints on backbone when slabbed - the blues bill is totally different than a black - if it's a black it's bill will be rounder and very short and thick a blues bill is longer and more elliptical in shape - also if it's a black it's flesh will be white
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