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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

Originally posted by hookerpuka hookerpuka wrote:

Have you brought shares in Fin-nor now BA LOL good words of wisdom though. making some bling gear at a mean price. 
no mate far from it, have used my Fin-nor for nothing but live baiting so the words come from experience and not what I hear through the grape vine, I am at a loss when someone says no to a spinning reel then says a spinni9ng reel in a diferent brand is the be all, dunno I am a firm believer in using gear designed for the job, as the fin-nor OS series are, they were never designed for anything but, then there is shimano, in the spinning range, designed for everything but live baiting, am I missing something, still horses for courses and hey if you have the money to spend on the more expensive stuff so be it, I have always thought a fish did not know what it got caught on and I for one am not out to show off to my mates all my flashy stuff, I would rather have gear on the rocks or the boat that gets the job done, yes shimano through and through for me but then money talks and I have nothing to prove to anyone when it comes to gear.
 
Like I said a tld would be the jingles and you dont need a 25 either a 15 would do the job, mind you with only kings to 26k on such gears oh and the marlin I expect I will have to keep catching them to see the gear worksWink
 
buy what you can afford its as simple is that and if you want the best save hard and get it, but all is not what it seems, bit like tv where things get cut and pasted eh.
Think I deserve some shares got to many Fin-nors now...
 
My choice and I have both are my OF 6500 spin reel and my Marquesa 30T, both have a purpose and am looking forward to trying them out....
 
Anyone after a deal on one PM me as I can certainly help you out, even you Steve...LOL
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im too poor to pwn good spin-gear, but if i could afford it wouldnt be a Fin Nor, id scrimp and save for a nice wee STELLA and dedicate it to stickbaits and pitching piper (such a lethal trump card if livebaits are getting little attention).  

Has there been many decent kings taken on fixed-spool reels whilst 'livebaiting' from the bricks??
 
fish i thats just a dirty ole' tld50a with the harness lugs cut off. they used to dig in my forearm/elbow area whilst loaded.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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There are quite a few reels that are eligible.
I have used a few of the many-
TLD25
Shimano TTS50W (old game reel in line of beast master and then Tiagra)
Penn formula 15 (not bad reel)
Okuma titus 50 (probably not at the top of the list, drag not that smooth)
Daiwa SLD30 - Nice reel, very solid.
 
Other reels that would do the job -
Penn 30GLD / 50GLD
Shimano Tyrnos 16/20/30
The penn/shimano/Daiwa internationals / tiagra's / SLT's in 30 even the 20 size would be ok.
The old Penn senators would also be fine.
Penn 245LD or 45GLS (in good nick) would work too.
 
If you wanted a light weight outfit you werent planning on thrashing, a Daiwa 50slosh or 50slx with 50lb braid would bring in a good king, they put out 22lb of drag.
My first decent king off the rocks went just under 40lb and was caught on an old Daiwa sealine Magforce spooled with 11kg line. Not a serious Kingfish reel, intended for casting and smaller game. But it got the job done!
 
If you wanted the lightest and best value reel and werent going to thrash year in and out, the TLD20 would be my pick.... 10 trips a year and looked after it would last you well.
A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat.
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Originally posted by fish i fish i wrote:

Live baiting with a spin reel that does not have a secondary drag, I dunno about that.


I'm planning on livebaiting for kingis with spinning gear (from the boat though), can double as a casting rod too, got the idea from this video though I'm sure it's done widely
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Wouldnt it be a pain in the ass to livebait with a spin reel off the rocks unless you had a baitrunner function on your reel or felt like holding it the whole time?
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I would have thought the 12000D with braid would be good for a spin reel/baitrunner for live bait...
I live bait off the boat with my ocea jigger 5000p and just crank the star drag up on the strike..i suppose you could do the same thing with a spinning reel if need be.
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Daiwa SLD30 II is what im using these days... has spent the majority of its time on the cupboard shelf but does have the stopping power and smoothness that is perfect for kings. For $200 who would complain!.

i have a tld25 also that has delt to a few small kings, its solid and much better set for 15 kg line.  Got my best king on an Okuma EB80, buggered the reel though but was good to see that a spin reel would handle it. Will be buying a decent spin setup next .. something like the saragossa or twin power or stella... they will be killer for popper fishing.!

Live baits are most definatly best set with lever drag over heads. .. much better control.




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im too poor to pwn good spin-gear, but if i could afford it wouldnt be a Fin Nor, id scrimp and save for a nice wee STELLA and dedicate it to stickbaits and pitching piper (such a lethal trump card if livebaits are getting little attention).  

Has there been many decent kings taken on fixed-spool reels whilst 'livebaiting' from the bricks??
 
fish i thats just a dirty ole' tld50a with the harness lugs cut off. they used to dig in my forearm/elbow area whilst loaded.
 
Cheers Farnorf, yeah thought those wide reel with lugs could be a pain in the ass.

As Farnorf and Jk have elluded to, fixed spool spin livebaiting off the rocks = Wacko As I originally stated I'm after a LIVEBAITING REEL FOR LANDBASED FISHING!!!!

This is the landbased forum, yet here we have a whole lot of fullars wanting to put there 2 cents in on livebaiting from boats with spin reels etc. BA don't really need another speel on Finnors mate. I'm not going to be sitting on shore with a spin reel loaded with a live bait or leave it in the rod holder with drag tight or loose. For those have not livebaited from shore it can take time, not like live baiting from a boat where you are actively finding and targeting fish on the sounder or surface. I have a sustain that I use for casting topwater lures not livebaiting.

Thank you LBGer just the post I was looking for + experience.
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How do the Sealine 50s compare in size to the TLDs. 
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They 'feel' pretty good, never used one, have been eyeing up the sl50sh's.
 
Re spin reels, besides a baitrunner, the only one I can think that would be suitable would be the likes of the shimano ultegra or navi. You preset the drag on a small inner wheel, and then the drag can be ranged nil to whoa within 180 degrees rotation of the main drag wheel.
 
Not sure what line capacity you would get in the thicker stuff, but I have over 700m of 12lb mono on one of the spools on my Navi (used for surfcasting though)
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The TLD is probably a better reel functionally in terms of setting drag and being able to hit the high end of the drag without guessing .You want to be into fighting mode pretty quick and not contemplating philosophically 'gee how much drag should I use today'? 
A few miliseconds feels like minutes when you've got a king heading for argentina. The 50 sealine is a star drag reel, so you have to guess where to turn the drag to and it will take 1-2 turns of the drag to get there. It is a lighter reel compared to the TLD20/25/30 but less capacity (350yds 30lb vs 600yds of 30lb on the TLD25)  it would be an ideal 30lb reel for smaller - medium kings or big snaps or if you are targeting kings in areas where you can let em run without too much fear of finding structure to bust you off. Some harbours and small headlands  would be fine for this. If you are going to be in the rough stuff, 50lb is really the better line to be fishing. Perhaps when you get bored of pulling in kings on 50lb you could try 30lb....
The sealine 50 will handle it, is smaller and lighter but doesnt have the lever drag, and you would want to spool it with 50lb braid (wouldnt fit much 50lb mono). If you would prefer mono, and the convenience of a lever drag the TLD's would be a better option. 
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Xsspeed have a look at the Fin-Nor Marquesa 30T you'll see it has a very handy little feature probably perfect for the job you are looking for...

MARQUESA

Fin-Nor’s newest reel series is the ultimate offering of precision, strength and

refinement. Marquesais ideal for fishing the new, thinner braided superlines in a

new platform design that is lighter, faster and stronger than anything you’ve ever

seen on the water.

Marquesa is avaiable in two model types: a topless model for easy spool access

and control, and a model with a top bar that kite fishermen will especially

appreciate. Kite fishermen will also appreciate the dial that allows custom

adjustment of clicker tension. The top bar models are perfect for challenging

sailfish and the techniques needed to catch them.

Highlights

• Precision-machined aluminum one-piece frame

• Ultra-smooth carbon-fiber drag system

• High-speed 6.1:1 retrieve ratio

• Adjustable lever drag control

• Dial-adjustable clicker

• Oversized ergonomic crank knob

The Sailfisherman’s Friend.

Top bar adjustable clicker tensioin control make

Marquesa the perfect kite fishing reel for sailfish.

 
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Ive been land based fishing for nearly twenty years mate...Go for the TLD 20 or 25 stick some suffix synergy mono on it(thin/strong/low stretch)....Beauty is they are at home on the bricks or off the boat and cheap to pick up second hand(get it serviced when you get it too).My TLD25 is over 15 years old and still going strong.Look after it and it will look after you.Made in Japan bro(If you can find one).Got my TLD 20 of e bay usa.Shimano reel cover and your laughing.
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That does look good, should have elaborated more though, I wasn't looking at the sl50sh for livebaiting, just for casting big dead baits.
 
A marquesa is a bit out of my price range though, and I dare say not somthing I would take on the bricks. (btw I recently bought an ofc20l for jigging/trolling/livebaiting from my boat, got for more than 100 below retail also which was choice)
 
I have been thinking about a big reel though.
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For big dead baits I'd rate the sl50sh as the best VALUE reel you could get for the job. I have landed a 25lb & 23lb snapper off the bricks on the 50SLX which is more or less the same reel as the sl50sh in terms of gears/drags/frame/quality. Got a 32lb wahoo on it in the islands, didnt sweat at all.
A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat.
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TLD 25,30 and 50s are popular for good reason, they work,
Ive used every thing from a 25 to a Tiarga 80 off the stones and unless you are after something with a beak,
You cant go past the TLDs,for  LB live baiting
Ive seen a few marlin caught on a TLD 50
 As LBGr said Nothing wrong with the sl50sh for snapper off the bricks
A TLD 50 lrsa spooled up braid and a mono top shot will have you covered
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Originally posted by JK JK wrote:

Wouldnt it be a pain in the ass to livebait with a spin reel off the rocks unless you had a baitrunner function on your reel or felt like holding it the whole time?


Thats exactly what it is a pain in the arse
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