$42,000 marlin

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    Posted: 05 Mar 2008 at 5:43pm
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Heard this story through the grapevine during the recent Classic comp here in Whitianga (if its not right im sure Martini will correct it)
 Day 1 of the comp a boat hooks up on a strpy brings it to boat ,they estimate it at 120 kgs tag and release it .There thinking was that with all the Blues being caught and the likelihood of bigger fish being caught it was not worth weighing
Day 3 and the winner is a strpy wieghing 116kgs .Took off 1st prize plus they had bought themselves in the Calcutta so walked away with something in the region of $42,000
The crew of the vessel who had released the possible prize fish apparently were reported to have mutinied and had thrown two tagpoles and tags overboard Never heard what happened to the skipper LOL
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 The above situation probably happens quite often although they have no way of knowing it was >116kg
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At least they caught a fish and good on them for letting it go, its only money after all, evil nasty stuff...
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always an issue when money gets involved in fishing comps as thoughts of tagging go out the window
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Bonze and Immortal were both in that tourney, they should know. I think they came 3rd
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Hope they post the daily results up and the grand winner
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And what was the tag prize? A $2 plastic trophy?
Calcuttas combined with the main prize for heaviest weighed really gets to me. How hard would it be to have a points tournie, 450 for tagged, (100 x fish weight)/Line weight for weighed fish. That would actually bring skill into it where boats have to tag a few fish or target them on lighter lines if not tagging.
The Whangaroa Ladies comp is another set up like this with the Calcutta and main prize for heaviest weighed. All tagged fish go into a draw for some lesser prize, so its possible that a boat could tagged 5 fish for the comp and win nothing while a boat that kills 1 wins the lot. Hense the tag rate for the comp is a joke.
 
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seen sensible enough to me Mr. Scott....but then again we've been banging on about this for a few years now mate.....let's hope one of these days a shift in mind set enters in to tournament organization......

just to clarify Adam....the Calcutta goes to whomever 'owns' the team that axes the biggest marlin? not the whichever team accumulates the most billfish points?

is that to stop the Primetimes etc etc of this world scaring off competition?
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I guess its a case of more people coming to look at a weighed fish rather than a board with chalk, this equals numbers at the club and in turn more $$$$$
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Yeah Kezza, people put $$ on the boat to catch the heaviest fish not most points...I dont see the logic.

Bushie, maybe it does but in the long run it could have a negative effect. Weighstations are generally in very public places for everyone to see. Nearly everytime Ive weighed fish in Paihia some tourist has made a comment such as "How could people kill such a beautiful fish, thats awful". While at the time you feel like telling them to stick it, in reality they are just a non fishos giving their view and we have just turned another person against what we do. Looking at it from their view, there is what was a beautiful fish now dead bleeding all over the deck and a bunch of loud mouth drunks celebrating over it, obviously not doing our sport any favours. Tournaments setup to promote this in my view are short sighted. Tag flags go un noticed by non  fishos and dont cause the same backlash.

But its all been said before. So we wont be fishing the comp this weekend.
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Thats what I love about the Nats.
 
no major prizes or egos.
 
just kudos.
and time with your mates.
 
 
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You will also hear a number of people going wow. When I weighed a fish at Whangaroa a couple of years back there was a tourist that wanted her photo taken with it.

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I agree with Bushpig on this ,there is a significant place for tag and release and so long as the percentages are high (which i believe they are here in Whitianga 06/07 season 53 strpeys wieghed 66 tag and release) there is also a place for bringing it in hanging it up and wieghing it .here in Whiti we depend a lot on tourism and the crowds that gather the photos taken and the tales told when tourists get back home i dont think can be underestimated .As for this particular comp not everyone agrees with it but if thats the case dont fish it ,our one base has significant prizes for tag and release ,and top boat is determined by points accumulated of which tag and release billfish gain a good amount of points 
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Originally posted by whiti-fisho whiti-fisho wrote:

IAs for this particular comp not everyone agrees with it but if thats the case dont fish it ,our one base has significant prizes for tag and release ,and top boat is determined by points accumulated of which tag and release billfish gain a good amount of points 
That was my main point, why not make Calcuttas for points instead of heaviest weighed. That way you can compete tagging, you can compete weighing and compete with a combination.
I also agree that a few fish through the scales produces interest, helps generate charters to help balance out the people who are put off. But enough fish will still get weighed with the points system to do that, but not every fish that gets caught "Incase" its the biggest. 450 points for a tagged fish is equal to 108kgs on 24kg line so it will generally only remove the small fish from comming in.
There a plenty of reasons to take fish, be it that you are really hungry, or that you need to prove that its bigger than your mates so this means you must be a better fisherman than him, or that you see them as pests which keep waking you from your Sunday afternoon sleeps so you're trying to eliminate them. These are all personal choices and Im not arguing with that, but if the reason is that you have to take it to win $$ in a tournie then maybe the rules need updating, points based will give the decision back to the angler.
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The competition was heaviest fish wins, no line weight restrictions.Its all about backing yourself,the guys were clever  enough to buy their own boat after all why would you bet against yourselves in a competition?.They won fair and square, had the fish smoked and shared it amongst over 40 people, NONE OF WHICH WERE SAD SACKS ...
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