Pole Spear - Do I tie it onto something?

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Hi Guys,

Picked myself up a pole spear from Ocean Hunter this week - I'm just getting into free diving again and want to focus more on the Crays than fish at the moment, but cant stand the thought of spotting Johnies and not being able to take them home, hence the pole spear rather than a gun.

My question is, do I tie the spear onto myself, or the float line, or just have it free in my hand? Can see Risks and advantages to all 3 options...

Advice would be appreciated. Cheers

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I am no pole spear guru but attaching the floatline to the rubber where you hold it in your hand would do the trick.  It wouldn't slow the spear down when having a crack at a fish but still have it all attached.
 
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I have read that looping a few feet of dyneema to the band and clipping your floatline to your dyneema section is a good option, as it doesn't slow down the spear as much as directly attaching the floatline.
Might try this method myself as it would allow you to mark crays etc.
Tying the spear to yourself would be a bad idea.
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I have tried once (no experience) but found the rope to the bungee did slow the spear down a little but could easily have been doing things wrong.
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Ok so your best option is first get a Cable tie and put it around the rubber to make a hand loop. It should stretch easily around your hand and not be too tight when flacid. This stops the float line sliding back towards the spear when cocked - which obviously would seriously slow the spear down.
Then depending on your float line, either clip shark clip directly to that loop, or get a shark clip on a small loop of poly braid and push clip through loop and around the rubber so you can clip it to your float line loop, just like a standard gun setup.
Trust me, i do know, and this is your best option right now.
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No don't use that.
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Pjspear normally ties it to his scupper to get that extra inch
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Originally posted by TheSnapperWhisperer TheSnapperWhisperer wrote:

Ok so your best option is first get a Cable tie and put it around the rubber to make a hand loop. It should stretch easily around your hand and not be too tight when flacid. This stops the float line sliding back towards the spear when cocked - which obviously would seriously slow the spear down.
Then depending on your float line, either clip shark clip directly to that loop, or get a shark clip on a small loop of poly braid and push clip through loop and around the rubber so you can clip it to your float line loop, just like a standard gun setup.
Trust me, i do know, and this is your best option right now.

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Originally posted by TheSnapperWhisperer TheSnapperWhisperer wrote:

No don't use that.


Why not? Its the simplest method i could get my brain to produce and in stainless they are rated at well over most fish I will ever come across. (thats a question, not a arghument...)

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Cheers SnapperWhisperer, Seems like a good plan.
So once set up, my hand will only go through the cable tie, not the Rubber at all?

Also, When using the spear, should I be looping cable tie over my hand so that the rubber goes down the inside of my wrist putting the rubber between my arm and the spear, or over my thumb so that the rubber runs down the outside of my wrist putting my arm between the spear and the rubber.

Guess I just need to get wet and find out what works....
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Sorry I can't find a picture of the cable tie setup. 

Well this is how I set mine up, with a full 'Manny Knot'.  This is the most efficient way.  But you do need more than a standard length of rubber to do it.  If you have rubber on already in a standard simple loop configuration then you only have to add the cable tie to make it almost as good as a Manny Knot.

So, the cable tie just replaces the need to tie the knot in the middle of the rubber. It should create a comfortable hand loop of rubber for you to grip when cocked. As you can see, the middle knot forms a barrier behind your hand  to stop the float line running back towards the spear when the rubber is stretched thin. If it it did run back then when you released the spear the spear would have to tow the float line through the water and this will slow it down substantially.

Now, the float line you see above just ends in a regular shark clip such as you will find on any gun sold in proper spearfishing stores.  I just make a braided loop in the end of some polyprop and then braid the shark clip onto the other end.  Then just pass the clip around your pole spear rubber and back through the loop.  It holds fairly well for a while but it will slip back when cocked (hence the need for the cable tie or some other barrier).
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