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An elderly guy came back in to the ramp to find some thieving ***** had nicked his trailer at Kuaotunu last weekend.  Not the first time that I have heard this happening.
Who locks their trailers while out fishing?. I never did but will do from now on
How often does this happen?
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I don't use a wheel clamp but I have a lock where the trailer hitches to the tow bar. I think I read a thread on here a while back about some one stealing the winch handle off a trailer, It made me check to see if mine came off easily and started caring a spare. 

There is some ***** out there! The last thing you want after a good days fishing is to get back to the ramp and you can't get your boat out of the water. 
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Hi, Dave iv heard of that happening at raglan. My extreme came with a padlock on the ball bar so lock as soon as hitched on. Not bullet proof system but would prevent the opitunists. Trailer also has 3 large numbers welded on it that matches with 3 numbers wielded on to th boat. Good thinking extreme!
I guess the scum are replacing there rotten trailers?
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Yep, keep mine locked although may do same as wide load from now on....wouldnt be hard to break the lock off id say....Poor bugger that had his knicked.
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have not had a trailer go missing but a few years ago, ever single time i fished out of Taipa in the Far North both my D shackels would go missing... must have lost like 5 or 6 before i started locking them in the truck... also have a padlock n stainless sleave on tow point!  good deterant!
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I believe these scumbags stealing trailers also do so to cut up and sell to the scrap metal yards.

As far as D-shackles go. Got sick of having mine nicked from Holiday Boat storage yard, so bought one of those chain clamps that bolts to your tow bar. Not sure what they are called, but I bought mine from Repco.


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I have a padlock thru' the trailer hitch - both on the vehicle and at home in the driveway. Nothing to spoil your day on the water by coming back to a missing trailer.
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I padlock to my car and take the D shackles off. What the heck would you do if your trailer was stolen? It's not like you can just get someone to pick you up and worry about it later. 
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i had a padlock through mine but lost the key so one good whack with a dumpy hammer and it snaped off easy as. i havnt got a lock anymore but hmm myte have to think of some way to lock him on know. iv had d shackles get stolen iv even had my prop bag get stolen at kopu pub 1 day haha.
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Arrived at HMB one day with the wife acting as crew and a guy came running up to me and asked if I would help by loading his boat on my trailer and running it home for him as some barstool had knicked his.  The guy reckoned he was only a couple of K's from the ramp, so I did the Good Samaritan thing. Dropped my boat in the water and left the Mrs. holding it while I loaded the other guy's boat on my trailer and towed it to his place - which turned out to be at least 5 K's away Confused By the time I had dropped his boat off in his driveway and got back on the road again quite some time had passed and when I got back to HMB all the close-by parking had been taken so had to park quite some distance away.
Long story short..got back to the boat (and a very irate Mrs) and headed out for a fish... but the bite time was well and truly done by the time we got to our spot, so suffered a zilching for our efforts.
Since then I have always had a towbar lock and a wheel clamp on my trailer when it is left unattended - even at home (even though the rig is behind locked gates).

(Never did hear from the guy I had helped - he had promised me a tray of the brown stuff for helping him....)  Not that that would stop me from helping another boatie in the same predicament if I came across one in the future.  And despite the precautions I take, I always worry when heading back to the ramp that everything will be as it should be as far as my trailer is concerned).
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My boat and trailer was stolen up north, overnight. I had a trailer coupling lock, which is a pin with padlock, that prevents the coupling being attached to a towball.
It didnt stop the thieves (arseholes). I now think the coupling lock isnt sufficient, and intend using two devices - a coupling lock and a security cable attaching the trailer to something.
But, that wont stop determined thieves. Keeping the boat beside the house should help too.
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I had one of those red and yellow pincer type wheel locks. Lost the key. A 12 volt drill took about 10 seconds to sort it. So I went for a more expensive cable type with lock. Drove off with it around the wheels and it snapped like cotton Embarrassed. I now have the most expensive chain and padlock I could find and it seems to be the best option. I reckon you need to make life difficult and put two layers of security on stuff. Would like to put one of those bars over the outboard screws to stop that getting lifted. They had them on a deals site but they sold out. Anyone know where you can get them from?
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If we head into the lakes and surrounding bush for overnighters we remove the wheels from the trailer, put them in the truck, and keep the nuts on the boat. Takes a bit more mucking around at the ramp, but while one of us is doing that, the other is organising things on the boat. We also take the truck battery out and use that on the boat as backup. So if you want to pinch my truck and trailer go ahead, but bring your own wheel nuts and batteries ;)
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Originally posted by ponty ponty wrote:

I padlock to my car and take the D shackles off. What the heck would you do if your trailer was stolen? It's not like you can just get someone to pick you up and worry about it later. 
Fairly dangerous thing to do as the padlock is more than likely quite weak and may not hold in the event of the toe hitch coming off the ball.  I suggest you do a little test and hook the chain up only and drive off. I suspect you'll be amazed at how easly it smashes the lock. Have you obtained a warrant with this setup?
 
Also for all those folks out there that secure your trailer to the vehicle with a locking pin make sure your whole toe ball and bar is not the removable type because it's just as quick and easy to pull that pin and your tralier is gone. You can buy a locking pin for this too. I have.
I lock the hitch with the lock pin and use a wheel clamp. Didn't worry about the clamp when my trailer was the worse one of the bunch but now it's new and is often at the ramp in the dark. Don't worry about the shackles I just carry a couple of spares just incase.
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I always put a padlock on the tow hitch, has a small latch on it for the lock so the handle can not be lifted up to release tow ball. Will now start padlocking the safety chain to the draw bar as well.
Have it locked at home as well and a big piece of chain in a block in the ground wrapped around the draw bar.
Another local fish O lost his trailer winch and post to which the boat rest up against from his trailer from Te Kouma car park over night for a 769 Blue fin.
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Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

Originally posted by ponty ponty wrote:

I padlock to my car and take the D shackles off. What the heck would you do if your trailer was stolen? It's not like you can just get someone to pick you up and worry about it later. 
Fairly dangerous thing to do as the padlock is more than likely quite weak and may not hold in the event of the toe hitch coming off the ball.  I suggest you do a little test and hook the chain up only and drive off. I suspect you'll be amazed at how easly it smashes the lock. Have you obtained a warrant with this setup?
 
 
 
The Testing Station does not allow padlocks because in the event of an emergency it impedes progress for the Fire Brigade if they have to remove the trailer from the vehicle...
 
I used to padlock my towing chain on my dinghy to the car until I got told off.Embarrassed
 
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Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

Originally posted by ponty ponty wrote:

I padlock to my car and take the D shackles off. What the heck would you do if your trailer was stolen? It's not like you can just get someone to pick you up and worry about it later. 
Fairly dangerous thing to do as the padlock is more than likely quite weak and may not hold in the event of the toe hitch coming off the ball.  I suggest you do a little test and hook the chain up only and drive off. I suspect you'll be amazed at how easly it smashes the lock. Have you obtained a warrant with this setup?
 
 
 
The Testing Station does not allow padlocks because in the event of an emergency it impedes progress for the Fire Brigade if they have to remove the trailer from the vehicle...
 
I used to padlock my towing chain on my dinghy to the car until I got told off.Embarrassed
 

To reword it. From my house to the boat ramp=D shackles connected the chain to the towbar. Once the boat is off the trailer the D shackles are taken off on winch and on chain and the chain is then padlocked to the towbar. I sometimes forget Embarrassed  but most of the time i swap them over again at the end of the day. 
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Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

Originally posted by ponty ponty wrote:

I padlock to my car and take the D shackles off. What the heck would you do if your trailer was stolen? It's not like you can just get someone to pick you up and worry about it later. 
Fairly dangerous thing to do as the padlock is more than likely quite weak and may not hold in the event of the toe hitch coming off the ball.  I suggest you do a little test and hook the chain up only and drive off. I suspect you'll be amazed at how easly it smashes the lock. Have you obtained a warrant with this setup?
 
 
 
The Testing Station does not allow padlocks because in the event of an emergency it impedes progress for the Fire Brigade if they have to remove the trailer from the vehicle...
 
I used to padlock my towing chain on my dinghy to the car until I got told off.Embarrassed
 
Somehow I think the fire brigade would just cut the chain if they wanted the trailer off in a hurry, they carry big bolt cutters.

PAdlocks are not enough on a safety chain, as above, chains are quickly and easily cut..as well as the obvious of padlocks being weak or smacked off with a hammer.

What I would consider is a bracket that covered the nut on your towball, had a leg going up each side of the towball and coupling and then locked on top of the coupling.
Use one of those round padlocks that have very little lock shaft showing.
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Always have padlocked the hitch on for two reasons, one obviously to make it a little harder to steal and also to safeguard the hitch accidentally comming undone. Good habit to get into.
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